Subject: FZ Bible FIRST POSTULATE TAPES 14/35 (20th ACC)
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FIRST POSTULATE TAPES 14/35 (20th American Advanced Clinical Course)

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Contents

20th ACC - First Postulate Cassettes [clearsound]

New #    Old #   Date     Title

20ACC-1  (1)   14 Jul 58 OPENING LECTURE
20ACC-2  (1A)  14 Jul 58 OPENING LECTURE - Q AND A PERIOD
20ACC-3  (2)   15 Jul 58 ACC PROCEDURE OUTLINED E-METER TRS
20ACC-4  (2A)  15 Jul 58 ACC PROC OUTLINED - E-METER TRS - Q AND A PERIOD
20ACC-5  (3)   16 Jul 58 COURSE PROCEDURE OUTLINED
20ACC-6  (3A)  16 Jul 58 COURSE PROCEDURE OUTLINED - Q AND A PERIOD
20ACC-7  (4)   17 Jul 58 BEGINNING AND ENDING SESSION
20ACC-8  (4A)  17 Jul 58 BEGINNING AND ENDING SESSION - Q AND A PERIOD
20ACC-9  (5)   18 Jul 58 ACC TRAINING PROCEDURE
20ACC-10 (5A)  18 Jul 58 ACC TRAINING PROCEDURE - Q & A PERIOD
20ACC-11 (6)   21 Jul 58 THE KEY WORDS (BUTTONS) OF SCIENTOLOGY CLEARING
20ACC-12 (6A)  21 Jul 58 THE KEY WORDS (BUTTONS) OF SCN - Q & A PERIOD
20ACC-13 (7)   22 Jul 58 THE ROCK
20ACC-14 (7A)  22 Jul 58 THE ROCK - Q & A PERIOD
20ACC-15 (8)   23 Jul 58 SPECIAL EFFECT CASES,  ANATOMY OF
20ACC-16 (8A)  23 Jul 58 SPECIAL EFFECT CASES, ANATOMY - Q&A PERIOD
20ACC-17 (9)   24 Jul 58 ANATOMY OF NEEDLES - DIAGNOSTIC PROCEDURE
20ACC-18 (9A)  24 Jul 58 ANATOMY OF NEEDLES - DIAG. PROC - Q&A PERIOD
20ACC-19 (10)  25 Jul 58 THE ROCK: PUTTING THE PC AT CAUSE
20ACC-20 (10A) 25 Jul 58 Q&A PERIOD - CLEARING THE COMMAND
20ACC-21 (11)  28 Jul 58 ACC COMMAND SHEET - GOALS OF AUDITING
20ACC-22 (12)  29 Jul 58 ACC COMMAND SHEET (cont.)
20ACC-23 (13)  30 Jul 58 ACC COMMAND SHEET (cont. 2)
20ACC-24 (14)  31 Jul 58 RUNNING THE CASE AND THE ROCK
20ACC-25 (15)   1 Aug 58 CASE ANALYSIS - ROCK HUNTING
20ACC-26 (15A)  1 Aug 58 CASE ANALYSIS - ROCK HUNTING (cont.)
20ACC-27 (16)   4 Aug 58 CASE ANALYSIS - ROCK HUNTING (cont. 2)
20ACC-28 (16A)  4 Aug 58 CASE ANALYSIS - ROCK HUNTING - Q&A PERIOD
20ACC-29 (17)   5 Aug 58 ARC
20ACC-30 (18)   6 Aug 58 THE ROCK - ITS ANATOMY
20ACC-31 (19)   7 Aug 58 THE MOST BASIC ROCK OF ALL
20ACC-32 (19A)  7 Aug 58 THE MOST BASIC ROCK OF ALL - Q&A PERIOD
20ACC-33 (20)   8 Aug 58 AUDITOR INTEREST
20ACC-34 (20A)  8 Aug 58 REQUISITES AND FUNDAMENTALS OF A SESSION
20ACC-35 (21)  15 Aug 58 SUMMARY OF 20TH ACC

The clearsound set includes an Appendix containing two HCOBs.  This
has been included with the first lecture above.

Note that old 15B "Q & A PERIOD" of 2 Aug 58 was marked as missing in
the Flag Master List and was later found by Gold.  Its absense here
probably means that they found it to be the same as old 16A (20ACC-28
in the above list).

Old number 19B "Q & A Period" of 8 Aug in the Flag Master List
is also omitted but 20ACC-32 (old 19A) is extremely long and probably
contains both old 19A and 19B.

Note 20ACC-2 (1A) does not appear on the Flag Master List but
appears to be genuine.

We were able to check ten of these against the old reels and
found minor omissions [marked ">" in the transcripts.]

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20ACC-14 (7A)  22 Jul 58 THE ROCK - Q & A PERIOD

THE ROCK - QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD

A lecture given on 22 July 1958

[Based on the clearsound version only.]

All right.

This is the question period of the seventh lecture.

Yes, Ralph?

Male voice: Would you run over those lead-ins again?

That's not a fair question.

Male voice: No.

I can talk some more about lead-ins if you want me to. This
is a big subject: diagnosis. Unfortunately, it has been the
subject that we could never teach anybody to date.

I'll give you a clue on a lead-in. We scan the track on
somebody. We start him back at conception and scan him
forward to present time. This is not a diagnostic method
and is not to be used. I mean, this is an experimental
method. I'll just show you something here.

We scan him on forward to present time. An awful lot of
things stick in his mind, so we take him back to conception,
scan him on forward to present time again, and an awful lot
of things stick in his mind.

A lot of these things start erasing. And you keep at it
long enough, it gets clearer and clearer and his life
straightens out and a lot of these things erase, but we're
left with one that doesn't. At least one type of incident
won't budge and we find him thoroughly stuck.

So we run him on Help of dead bodies to open up some past
lives or something of the sort. This is all experimental,
you understand, just to give you an anatomy of a case. So
we take the life before this and we scan him forward from
conception in that life, which he can't barely - he can't
even conceive of it actually to make a pun - and we scan him
on forward through that lifetime and up to present time,
and we do that and a lot of it shows up; and oh, this would
be arduously long and isn't a recommended method; I'll just
give you the mechanics, you see.

And pretty soon, the same kind of incident that stuck up in
the current lifetime sticks up in that lifetime. So we take
him back a few lifetimes earlier. We take him back to some
fixed date on the E-Meter that bopped or something and we
take a period prior to that and we scan him all the way up
from 1700 to present time. And we'll find that each one of
these lives a similar incident stuck and doesn't free; but
now they're getting bunched up; we're jamming his track on
one incident, one type of incident.

So we take him back to 1000 A.D. and we scan him on up all
the way through and now everything seems to clean up except
one type of incident. Well, up to this time it's all
apparently had to do with women, marital situations in
which he went boom! See? Now, we would make a vast mistake
if we thought the Rock was a woman or a married woman or
something. It's some special breed of cat. See, it's
something special about this and usually to that extent his
behavior would be modified by women but then women are
locked up on something else. Get the idea? Now, I'll give
you an actual example of having scanned somebody around one
time. Women were locked up on legs, and only after a long
time the preclear cognited on the fact that men had legs
too. How remarkable. Big cognition, you know, he never
noticed men's legs. Well therefore, if we'd run women we'd
have been so far astray that we never would have gotten
anywhere. It was legs.

And during the last couple millennia women's legs have been
covered up and haven't been discussed in drawing rooms and
you couldn't even say, "Women had legs." You know, they had
"limbs" or something. The bad boys always stood around in
the village main street by the corner drugstore and looked
at women's ankles - been quite a thing about legs and that
was all we were getting, you see, with all of this diagnosis.

But all of a sudden we run into "legs," see? And then he
wakes up to the fact he hasn't got any! Brand-new thought.
See? Watch for these brand-new thoughts. They're what stick
out like mad.

First time he tells you he never thought about that before,
boy, you're cooking on the front burner. You've gone in
under the inhibitor and you're bringing the creation up to
view.

You'd be safe enough at this point simply to run "legs."
You get "legs" pretty flat and you find out it's really
"shoes." And why shoes? Because they prevent a thetan from
reaching downward and are a consistent and continual
barrier. It'll work out something weird like this, see?
Don't expect it to be logical, it won't be. That's why it's
noncomputable.

But problems will start falling into view. Don't handle
them as problems, skip them. Life computations will come to
view and all sorts of things will start to come to view.
There's a lot of "come to realize" on running for the Rock,
see? "Oh, what do you know! I never thought about that
before. Say, yeah." "I wonder what a thetan would look like
if it had legs, you know?" Naturally, legs are a
cancellation of a thetan's - one of the thetan's primary
abilities, which is simply to disappear in one place and
appear someplace else. Legs travel him there and he's mad
about legs.

Now, one of the manifestations that will come out on the
subject is he hates legs because legs invalidate him and
he's the one who is supposed to move bodies and things
around, and legs move them around. Do you get the idea?
I'll give you another computation, a thetan furious about
eyes, you see. In this particular case it was women, women,
women, women, women, women, women, women, women; babies,
babies, babies, babies, babies; frogs. Oh, Freud would have
had a ball with this particular case. Frogs, frogs, frogs,
frogs, frogs; lizards, lizards, lizards, lizards, lizards.
"Where the hell am I going? You know? It doesn't seem to be
getting anywhere," and so forth. "Well, what do you seem to
see there?" "Well, it's nothing but this damn lizard's eyes
staring at me." It wasn't women, babies, frogs or lizards;
it was eyes.

So you can say it's a common denominator to everything he
brings up. It's the one thing that each of these things has
in common. Of course, women's eyes are quite compelling
because they're usually - when a fellow is fascinated with
some woman, he's usually fascinated with her eyes or
something of the sort, you know. And the eyes are the seat
of the livingness and all of this sort of thing. "Windows
of the soul," some poet would say or something or other.
All of a sudden this thetan is liable to go half nuts that
you're auditing and say, "Well, I should do all the
lookingness! Eyes don't see anything. I should be doing -
the one that is looking!" And he, after a while, will fall
out into a minor cognition that "I" and "eye" in English
are spelled differently - be a great revelation to him.

Get the idea?

So, as you run down along the line, several conditions have
to be answered. One of these conditions is that it doesn't
release. The Rock doesn't release until you get it but you
have to be close to it in order to affect it at all and
unburden it. You can't unburden it from a distance. You
can't pull the sand off the edges of the Rock without
starting an avalanche - in other words, your needle just
gets stucker and stucker and stucker and stucker when
you're really on the Rock.

Another condition is that it violates one of the thetan's
personal (this is always individual) ideas of what he
should be doing. In other words, it has helped too much, to
a total dependency, and then he himself has - it's been a
violation, you see, of his abilities, and eventually he's
cashiered one of his abilities and taken over this thing
and then it betrayed him, and he's stuck with no ability to
look. See? Very simple.

Physical universe is too broad and too big to be called a
Rock, but it's not beyond possibility that space is the
Rock. You know? The space is - space, horrible stuff. "How
could you help space? God knows." And he'll boggle on this
thing. Eventually, after he swings in just so close to it,
after that he'll either start running it or start protesting.

If he's a good Scientologist, he probably won't protest; if
he's somebody off the street, he'll protest like mad. Got
it? Now these lead-ins, then... You've always got
something hanging out, to answer your question very
directly, there's always something hanging out and in this
particular eye case, you had a pc who was always this way.
God, you're making so much out of looking that it was
fantastic! See, you just look. You know? Looking was a
conscious effort almost, apparently, and yet he apparently
wasn't looking at anything. His eyes were not quite focused
ever, but he was looking at things, see? And the auditor,
after he got ahold of this one, says, "Oh, for God's sakes.
I work on this thing for ten solid hours and then I run
this thing! The guy has been eyes, yes, obviously eyes,
obviously. The first moment I ever spotted the pc, I said,
'Boy, that's a funny way of looking.' "Why didn't he just
run it in the first place, you know? But you never do, so
to hell with it.

Yes, Jack?

Male voice: Isn't the Rock, the Rock on any case, more
likely to be further back on the track than bodies? Yes,
yes. I kind of made that point in the lecture. But bodies
can be all kinds of bodies and vehicles. And you'll find a
present life body or a present millennia body or something
here in the last million years or so, possibly go back to a
different type of body, and a different type of body
entirely like a robot body or something of the sort. You
know? It isn't necessarily true that the individual has had
the Rock for 76 trillion years, see? He might have only had
the Rock for the last thousand or two and been in pretty
good shape.

One of the things you can do, yeah, one of the things you
can do... You know, he just had minor little things that he
was boggling at and so forth, and he wasn't really in there
to a point where "everything identified with one thing."
And boy, when that happened, man, he got a reactive mind
and after that he got it quick.

There's another way of looking for one of these things, by
the way, that might interest you; is, look back to the last
time he was happy. I've already tested this one as a
possibility, running it on an E-Meter; the last time he was
happy. And you're liable to find some early date.

The way you locate a date is "Was it later than that? Was
it earlier than that?" And watch for drops. And when you
get right on it, why, you will get a considerable needle
reaction, when you get the exact year or something of that
sort. And then you try to find out what happened then. And
very possibly you will have some kind of a major situation
in which a lock of the Rock featured. So just examine
everything connected with that.

Found one the other day that had four apparent lead-ins,
all of them less than a thousand years ago. I have
forgotten what the four were because I didn't do the
analysis on the case. But it was: one was a stake. Another
one was an actual rock, being stoned to death. Another one
was a tree. Another one, I think, was a spear. Boy, these
were all sticky.

Now, the analysis was not pushed any further than that
simply because it was one of these twenty-minute
look-over-the-track things. But four items were listed out,
each one of which went zzzzzz. The needle got real stuck
up. You had to run Connectedness - the person doing the
analysis had to run Connectedness to free up the needle.

Now, where these things went and how far back they went,
Lord knows, but when you get the Rock, you generally get a
late lock on it. But you get the actual Rock very often, if
you're really auditing it. If you get something close to
the Rock or the actual Rock, what you've got is late but is
nevertheless valid.

Now, when you start running it, boy it goes way back down
the track, see? It precedes itself much earlier and earlier
and earlier.

If you asked this individual, "When?" why, he'd go sailing
back to the dim reaches of the far beginning of things, you
see? And he'll flop all over the place and you'll find out
this thing has been pretty present all over the track.

But when you pick it up in a single incident, remember that
the incident which is locked up hardest on the case, the
engram which is most stuck, was prepared for for a very
long time. He had a weak spot there, see, and you'll get
all these preparatory incidents. You can actually see him
stuck in the engram. Maybe the engram is relatively recent;
that was the time when he was no longer in control of this
thing called a reactive mind. Up to that time he could
brush it off a bit, you know, but all of a sudden it went
whomp, and he'd had it. After that he was no longer in
control of the reactive mind. He just kept on mocking it
up, mocking it up, mocking it up and inhibiting it,
inhibiting it. Lie doesn't know what to do with it; he's
just frantic.

Now, it's very true what you say. It's much earlier than
bodies, but thetans have always had some means of
identification of one kind or another.

It could be - it could be such a thing - such a stupid
thing apparently as an energy particle or something, you
see?

Male voice: I was going to ask would - if you located the
material of the Rock, would this be near enough to run?

Yes, usually, it would swing you into it.

Male voice: Well, you don't have a...

I went all the way down the track on blood one time. Blood,
funny thing for a thetan to be worried about, but he was
sure worried about blood. It was a great shock to him. He'd
always had bodies that didn't bleed and all of a sudden he
got a body that bled and blood was the inhibitor on having
a body because bodies bled. And that was very bad.

Male voice: Yeah, well, couldn't you take a...

The Rock was an inoperative body, that was the Rock.

Male voice: Couldn't you take, like the major groups of
things like solids, gases, liquids and sort of gradually get...

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. You could systematize it in.
The only difficulty you run into is many of these items are
so unreal to the preclear, they don't bop, see? That's why
a systematized approach has not been plotted out, because
the reality of the items which you could list are quite
variable. I suppose one day some full list of diagnostic
material will come out. The closest we've got to it right
now is SOP 8, Expanded GITA list. If you went down that
Expanded GITA list and just watched the meter hitting each
one kind of hard, why, there's some fair chance that you
would hit a good solid stick there someplace, see. Some
chance of it. That's a - just a generalized system. Value
has not been demonstrated yet completely. Is that it? All
right.

What other question is there? Yes, Jack?

Male voice: Well, just a brief comment. I think most people
would have something on bodies that lead down to something
else. That's just an opinion.

Yeah. If you're a little bit distant or if it's distant
from a Rock, or if the Rock is really just a small part of
what you hit, you'll find too much reaction on it.

If it's almost it but isn't it, you get too much reaction
on the darn thing because the pc actually sort of feels
that it'd be very painful to monkey with this thing very
much, you know? That's fear of it. Whereas if he said
"bodies" and then he had segregated out body types and body
parts, you see...

One rather interesting thing, a fellow with a total
Freudian - the ladies will have to forgive me here because
this was an actual case. I hope you will; we're all fellows
together in all this - but this guy was having a bad time of
it, and he had Freudian computations, you know, sex and all
of this, that and the other thing, and so on.

And he ran back on the subject of "nuts" and it didn't have
anything to do with Freud. It just wound up as the things
that hold the joints of robots together. They come apart
and strip and just as you're charging in battle and
everything is going along fine, all of a sudden the leg's
inoperative. And the guy'd go berserk every time he tried
to build up a little toy truck or something like this, so
that you had everything in the sun evidently connected with
this silly thing: nuts and bolts. It sounds impossible, but
everything suggestive that you could think of in connection
with this had flooded in. The boy had had some psychoanalysis
which had almost put a death knell on him, you see. Probably
the reason he bought psychoanalysis was the original
identification. It was one of these things, you know.

But you'll find everything explained by the Rock, which is
one of these horrible comments. Everything gets explained
by the thing or its locks, you know.

And the fellow says, "Now I know why I always used to spill
ink in school." And the auditor says, "How has this got
anything to do - how has it got anything possible to do here
with the thing we just found which is a pistol? Oh, I see,
ink, pist-" "No, no, that's not it. No! No! That's not it
at all. It's the fact that I've always, you see, I've
disliked women." You say, "Oh, no."

Trying to make a preclear be reasonable about it is
probably the cruelest thing you can do because you really
are looking at that first book "A=A=A=A" and how
thoroughly - how thoroughly roofs equal books, and how
thoroughly streetcars are just exactly the same things in
entirety as braids. How the hell did he manage that, see?
By the way, one of the impulses that gets a person into
lumping up things like this is "Keep it from going away."
That's why Step 6 is so shattering on - and so on.

He gets everything, he's - keep pulling things into himself
and keeping things from leaving, and getting up automatic
"keep its from going away," don't you see? And "How do I
get everything to stick to me so that I don't have to hold
on to things?" You see? Well, it's - after a person goes
almost psychotically frantic about losing things, then
he'll permit himself to go on with this Rock deal, and
eventually it goes out of his control. So Step 6 will hit a
Rock, but it's the cruel way to do it because it improves
the ability to mock up long before it discovers anything on
the case. And the Rock will just get stronger and stronger
and tougher and tougher and...

Male voice: What.

Hm?

Male voice: You blow through it though, don't you?

Yeah, if you keep the preclear in session. We've run it.
Just run Step 6 all by itself and we've improved people,
but they go around being happily caved in, you know. They
feel much better but they haven't got any chest anymore.

Another way of going about it - I'll give you another clue
about the Rock: if the Rock has any association with body
parts, it'll be that body part that the preclear isn't in
communication with. And if you just ask him to feel his
right hand and his left hand and tell you which feels the
most - if he told you his right hand had nothing like the
same feeling, you see? This hand, you see, is quite live
and this right hand - "What is this all about, you know?"
You get quite interested in this fact.

You've got some terrific imbalance on the body. Well, of
course, that's not too hot because it might be the arm and
it might be a bone and it might be a fingernail and it
might be all sorts of things, but it's something he sure as
the devil isn't communicating with.

Yeah, that's the one thing he doesn't want to do with the
Rock is communicate with it which is what makes it difficult.

Yes, Allison?

Female voice: Ron, say you were digging around now for the
Rock but the person had no recall at all on the whole
track, would you open it up then with Help on dead bodies
or something like that?

You could.

Female voice: Is it necessary?

You could, but the Rock is quite prominent in this lifetime
and you don't have to. The pc's going to do it; the pc's
going to open up whole track if you've got hold of the
Rock. He'll say, "What am I doing sitting here looking at
this picture of this Indian? Must have read it in a book,
you know." And he goes on this way for some time and
finally says, "Hey, now, wait a minute. I don't see here
what - exactly how this adds up, but I have a sort of a
feeling like I was on a planet one time or another and..."
Sometimes they innocently ask, "Could it be true that I've
lived before?" You don't have to tell them.

What about it?

Female voice: You know, it's funny. That's what I've been
doing.

That's it.

Female voice: I thought it was films or books.

That's right. That's right. And if you listen to it all,
and if you - for a long time a pc, for some hours of running
on this sort of thing, the pc can credit it all off to
having read a lot of Sir Walter Scott or having had
nightmares, and he's just charging it off to locks. And
actually, if he looks long enough and you let him, he can
rationalize it out into books he's read and all that sort
of thing. And after a while, he runs out of it and it's no
longer a satisfactory explanation. He gets tired of lying
about it, you know. That it?

Female voice: Yeah.

All right. Yes?

Male voice: There's probably quite a chain of incidents on
this - on things about the Rock in this lifetime. I was
wondering how they would have reacted - incidents that are
pretty closely associated with the Rock - would have reacted
to most types of processing, if there might not be a clue
there about the ones that you haven't been able to really
do much with.

Well, you're right. You're lucky to be auditing
Scientologists because they can actually answer this
question: "What surprised the living daylights out of you
in processing?" See? "What really shook you up? What didn't
you know about yourself that you discovered in processing?"
And you're right on the button. I'm awfully glad you
mentioned this because you're right on the button with the
Rock.

I'll give you an example. Julia one time just before a
congress decided all by herself that me standing up with
the hot congress lights pouring down on me - she knew I'd
been doing lecturing and been under spotlights for a
decade, you know, and undoubtedly nobody'd ever audited me
on it - so she just decided we just was going to do a little
patch-up before a congress and so forth.

And she just decided that lights must be - we ought to take
this off the case, you know. Oh, why, it surprised me half
to death. An actual light fixture moved - with my physical
eyes, you see, and with me looking - moved two feet down a
wall. Just moved all by itself! I thought, "Boy, I've had
it! I'm gone!" And "light," "light," - took me by complete
surprise. Now, if somebody were auditing me and looking for
something that was odd or something, they could simply ask,
you know, and - "Anything ever surprise you in auditing? Is
there something going on in your life that you didn't know
about that you found out in auditing?" And I, of course,
would tell them, "Well, there was light." I don't know
where they'd go from there.

Unfortunately, light must have been close in to whatever I
was doing, but what I'm doing doesn't seem to be very
serious. I'm a great trial to an auditor because when they
audit me directly, we don't get much of anyplace, nothing
much happens because I can see the room and move around and
do this and that.

When they get onto "body," body parts or straightening up
some section of experience or something like that that has
influenced a - bodies - then we get onto trying to keep a body
going and that sort of thing. But that's disappointing too
because they keep blowing. Then we ran Help on light and
evidently Julia had done such a terrific job on "Lights
going away" that I think Help on lights flattened out in
five commands or something stupid. I have forgotten what.
There wasn't anything on it.

But that is not necessarily the case on every Scientologist.
Get the idea? My case is not every other case. I'm not
identified.

Who else got a question? Miriam?

Female voice: Ron, there's another element in Scientology.
Almost every preclear has one attitude or one thing come up
over and over again and they never quite get resolved.

Well now, when I was talking here to Ralph coming up the
line on this, I said, "If you scanned this, you'd
eventually find this price tag hanging out. This little tab
hanging out, and it'd be the one thing that just wouldn't
resolve, wouldn't resolve." Well, it's straight on the
chain right down to the Rock.

Female voice: The preclear will bring that particular thing
up and he'll look at it, but by - they look the next day.

Yeah, it didn't resolve. It's not that he knows about it or
is interested in it; those are not the criteria. It's that
it just kept coming up and coming up and coming up and
nothing ever happened with regard to it.

I had a pc who had a "being chased by an Indian, as a
woman, into a river." Beautiful Freudian picture, you know?
See? Chased by an Indian into a river and was caught and
raped. And no matter what was done to the case, no matter
what was run on the case, no matter what computation, this
picture sooner or later would tend to pop up and disappear
again, and always the same, and never any change - except
as the person's ability to mock up was improved the picture
got brighter and brighter. But there it was, time after
time after time.

This pc, by the way - Rock computation does not happen to
be sex or bodies, but water. Fascinating, isn't it?

Male voice: A question, Ron. You said that "If the preclear
knows about it, it couldn't be the Rock." But there's a
point of - isn't there a point of differentiation...

I've told you...

Male voice:... between what the preclear mentions or
might talk about, and the Rock?

Well, he actually doesn't know, in absence of auditing. And
I've each time qualified this now, and I'm glad you brought
it up because I'd like to punch it home hard: this doesn't
too stringently apply to a Scientologist. A Scientologist
has had an awful lot of auditing, he knows a lot about cases
and he certainly knows a lot about his own case. He will add
to some degree his service fac in on this and tend to lead
you a bit astray, but not too far. And he has had surprising
things happen in auditing; he does know what he's up against
and so on. He has been amazed by some things. He does know
there's holes in his ability to perceive something. And he
knows a lot of things intellectually, and these things are
all of assistance in leading on down the line because the
fellow's been audited.

After all, we haven't exactly been stupid here the last
few years.

And I think your job is much easier right here in this
unit, all of you; much easier than it will be. And you're
almost cheating to take advantage of this fact amongst
Scientologists. But you should make sure if your
Scientologist is talking about this thing and so forth,
that it diagnoses the way and it analyzes the way I have
described to you, see, that it's stickier and stickier and
doesn't blow; and maybe it apparently blows once, you know,
and then it sticks right on down again; you've got a lock
off the top of it by some accident, you know. But its
general rule is, it's getting stickier and it's getting
tougher, and if you plowed in about this and you gave him
an ARC break about now, he'd really blow. See? And that's
the thing you want to watch.

Because in clearing people outside of this unit and outside
the area of Scientology, you're not looking at any educated
case at all, and he's liable to follow some old Freudian
analysis that he had, or he's liable to ...

I ran into a Scientologist just last night, late last night,
that was just about knocked flat on a single cognition on an
address to a situation in two-way comm - cognited on something
I have known about this person for about two years. And I'd
never realized the person had never cognited on it, so I just
punched up the conversation in this line.

I did one of these old-time Straightwire stunts, like 42
Aberdeen Road, you know. Like you fish around for ten
minutes and hit one! You know? The person was handling life
like a Christian Scientist. See? There was no mass, and all
you had to do was make this benign postulate over it all,
and then you didn't have to follow anything up, you didn't
have to do anything.

And the person all of a sudden pinned this down and
realized that there had been a very dominating Christian
Scientist right next to the person in childhood, see, and
this person really had never looked at it as being
aberrative. Every reason under the sun, moon and stars to
consider this person aberrative, but this Scientologist had
been playing cat and mouse with this computation for a
couple of years in auditing and had never looked squarely
at it. So you get another manifestation of: get the pc
to - even a Scientologist - to start looking at the thing;
he's liable to start cogniting right away.

Well, this is to some degree a certainty that you're on the
Rock chain. A person's greatest reality is on the chain of
the Rock, not their least reality, their greatest reality.
It's fascinating, isn't it? Person's getting right down and
getting real interested in being audited, is a good test if
you're on the chain and delivering the goods. See? Auditing
is awful real to them all of a sudden. They've been playing
around with it in the past, but it's awful real right now.
See? "Yeah, well, I've cut my lunch a little bit short. I
wanted to make sure I got back here in time for the
session!" Boy! Boy, you know - you know where you're located
here! Get the idea? The person doesn't want to come back,
isn't much interested in it, kind of unreal, just going
along for the ride; you know, happy to help you out as a
student, you know, happy to sit there and pretend to be a
preclear: you're not even vaguely near the case, see;
you're way off in left field somewhere.

And if somebody is blowing, you're probably pretty wrong
about the case. The person is in a point of where they're
feeling anxious. They know there's something there to be
audited; they feel it isn't going to get audited and they
can get a bit panicky.

Audience: Yeah. Mm-hm. That's right.

You know, they can get panicky. But nobody like a
Scientologist - a person off the street wouldn't get panicky
too much at this point. They'd have some confidence in you,
not like a Scientologist.

For instance, I have a good subjective reality on this. By
the way, I broke my arm some little time ago and it, for
some reason or other, wasn't healing up. So I got a series
of sessions last week and last night and I haven't got a
broken arm.

But the point was that it wasn't about to heal, and I was
for sure not going to go around with my arm in a sling, so
I just let the thing ride. And the bones kept grating
against the bones, and I'd say, "Well, I'll get around to
that later," you know. And the bones kept grating against
the bones and I got so I couldn't pick up a package of
cigarettes, finally. So my auditor says, "We'd better do
something about this." "Oh, better do something about it?
Well, I suppose we had. Well..." You know, this sort of
an attitude. Not that I was brave; it was simply that the
arm was a Rock, see? It was right on the Rock chain of
"beams." Beams would have audited much better; doing things
with beams and getting a little bit mad at arms because
they substitute for beams but don't reach far enough and
then don't disappear, you know, after you're through using
them. You see, this was what I was up against there and I
was totally neglecting this whole arm area. It was just as
gone as you could get. See? Naturally healing goes in ratio
to the amount of communication you're willing to put on the
area. The more communication you're willing to put on the
area, the greater healing will occur. Well, the person who
has no communication in an area very often doesn't know he
doesn't have any communication in the area.

I found a person the other day, says "Communicate with the
body? Why, what do you think? Do you think I'm crazy? Every
time I communicate with it, it hurts like hell! Why should
I communicate with it?" Interesting computation.

Person really not in very bad shape. You'd think that
person was in awful shape but in view of the fact that
bodies aren't the only thing that could be wrong with a
thetan, don't you see, as pointed out, you narrow the scope
here enormously.

And this person could communicate with trees and
automobiles and, you know, MEST and space and perfectly
happy and - just overlooked the body. And I was sympathetic
to this because that's to some degree what I do.

I'll pull off and not pay any attention to the body for a
long time, get too interested in the government or the war
or something, you know, something stupid. And I put all my
concentration on that and all of a sudden this body starts
going blahhh. See? And I'd say, "Wait a minute, I'd better
mock that thing up." You know? And I'd mock it up again and
it goes along fine.

Now, not to inject much personality into this, this area
that is the Rock is the area which is totally real to the
preclear, but the preclear isn't communicating with in any
way.

So in this particular case, "arms" were totally real to me,
"arms" but not this arm. Sounds funny, you know. "Arms! Oh,
arms. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. I've hacked them off and patched
them up and healed them and done this with them and that
with them, and blown somebody's arm off when he was about
to shoot me. And you know, I mean arms, naturally. Sure,
you have a lot of randomity about arms." It was a great
surprise to me, and the cognition in this particular case
was, that I didn't have the whole elbow section of this
arm. It was just missing. It was just missing. It was as
cleanly missing as though you look at this desk and you
don't see it. Get the idea? That's the only way a busted
bone could go on existing in an area and not have anybody
do anything about it. You see? You just neglect it, the old
"panther mechanism," total neglect.

I could have probably gone into long and involved
discussions about arms without getting into any serious
trouble because I just would have hit it lightly, wouldn't
have paid any attention to it. And it all would have been
intellectual discussion anyway.

The moment somebody said to me, "How could you help an
arm?" It was "Well - that's a funny question. What a silly
thing to ask somebody. You know? You can't help an arm,
everybody knows that." Clearing the auditing command again,
"What is an arm?" "Well, it's a spear." "It's a what?"
"It's a spear or a hatchet or a short sword or anything
like that. That's an arm." "Oh! you're talking about an
arm? Oh! Oh! I get it. I get it. I get it. Yeah, I - don't
- don't - don't tell me now, don't evaluate for me. I -
you're talking about a body's arm, like yours." Just a
silly zone of no communication but compulsive
communication. You get the idea?

Audience: Yeah.

Anybody can pick these up. You've got one right this minute
that would be entirely too unreal to audit. And I don't say
that as evaluation, but you don't - you don't have a clue,
I'm sure, what's going on in some area of Asia. See? I am
sure that you should be or could be rather easily in
communication with it. Don't you see? But you aren't in
communication with it.

It goes so far as to say that if one person in this
particular group right here, right now, was in thorough
communication with all of Russia and Asia, there wouldn't
even vaguely be a war. Get the idea? Somebody
pan-determining it; otherwise, it's all running off without
a communication, everybody abandoning responsibility for
it. Don't you see? It'll eventually generate into an
individuation of some kind or another.

I'm not talking mysteriously. When you abandon and don't
know you've abandoned communication with an area for which
you are basically responsible, you are then going to get
trouble from that area. That's for sure. And every place in
the world that you are not aware of now has, to some tiny
degree, a potential threat for that particular reason. And
any place that you are compulsively not very damn well
going to communicate with - if you went there by accident,
if you joined the army and they sent you there, of course,
as they would - you'd probably get your silly head blown
off. It'd be the one place in the world that could totally
affect you because it's a place in the world with which you
will not communicate. Got it?

Audience: Mm.

If you could consider communication as a kind of a balm or
a salve that when spread liberally brings total calm, and
consider the areas where it is not, to be those areas that
things can go haywire in, you will find one characteristic
of the Rock.

The other one is, that is the inhibitor at work. Now you
are in communication with the area or it wouldn't exist,
but you've got another mock-up sitting on it, just like I
had on this arm, see, nice little zone mock-up. It wasn't
probably any bigger than a salad plate in the whole world,
and it was that close up and I just had a total inhibitor
put on it. See? And there it was.

So, communication was being actively denied to that area.
Don't you see? But all other areas that were associated
with this area, identified with it, became more real as a
result. Because, of course, you kind of had to watch those
because you had it dimly in mind that it was dangerous.
Otherwise you wouldn't have inhibited this area, so
therefore you had to watch the situation. Do you get the
idea? But you didn't ever look in the right place.

You see, it was your action or is your action that knocks
out the communication in that part of Asia from which
you're going to get trouble. See? You've got a repressor
on it.

What is the atomic bomb and the army and the navy and so
forth but an inhibitor that's trying to inhibit the action
of Asia. Well, the more inhibitor there is on an area, the
more real atomic bombs and so forth are liable to become,
but not in that area. You say, "Well, it wouldn't hurt us
if any atomic bombs fell over there." Oh, bull.

Do you get how this Rock works?

Audience: Mm.

Hm?

I've tried in numerous ways to cover this thing, but if you
just get a picture of this thing being obsessively mocked
up; the thing is totally wrong; there's something totally
wrong with it, everything tied into it, and then you've got
sitting over the top of it some kind of an inhibitor which
is saying, "Under no circumstances will I communicate with
this." When you find yourself communicating with it, you're
liable to be very surprised because you've denied yourself.
You see? And you get your preclear to communicate with this
thing and he'll say, "Oh-ho, there's nothing to that. Bow
ties, I can always communicate with a bow tie. That just
shows you..." so forth. "Bow tie. What are you talking about
bow ties for?" You say, "Well, bow ties are decorative,
aren't they?" "Well, I wouldn't know about that, urn ..."
You know?

Want to go on auditing, of course, very cooperative about
the whole thing. "I don't see why you're covering this
particular subject." This would be an average,
off-the-street reaction. See? If you were to ask him, "How
can you help a bow tie?" you're liable to run into an
automaticity. See, it's a jammed up Help factor that's got
this thing moved out, and you're liable to run into an
automaticity. It goes like this, you know, "How could you
help a bow tie?" "Well, you could tie it, you could
strangle somebody, you could run it up and down the hill,
you could burn it. You could make it much flouncier; you
could buy new - uh..." You couldn't even articulate the
number of answers which go pouring off of it.

You ask it on the wrong side and he says, "There must
be - everybody knows you can't help a bow tie, see." That's
on the stuck side, you see. Every one of these super-stucks
has got an automaticity pushed up against it on the other
side. And bow ties, bow ties.

Well, you say, "Thetans back on the track never wore bow
ties, so I'm too late on the track. I'm much too late on
the track. That's for sure." "Let's try 'hanging.'"
"Hanging, nah." "Mooring lines?" See, you've got, rope,
necktie, and so on. How close can he get to a gallows rope?
See, it's a mooring line for a boat. Ha-ha. See? We go on
back down the line; we're liable to find in the final
analysis it'll fall off the case that it's a beam or
something with which you strangle somebody. And he too
often has used this to keep people from going in the wrong
direction, or things from moving in the wrong direction.
And then he got into an obsessive "do it." And then one
fine day, somebody he liked real well, some object he liked
very well started to move away and he threw a beam around
its neck and he cut its whole head off. Thunk! He says,
"I'd better not communicate with necks." See? So "neck"
would be part of this but wouldn't be it. "Bow tie" or "a
tie" of any kind might be it. "Necklace." See? A whole
bunch of stuff would be on this, each one of which would be
sticky, but you're not going to run stuff like "modern bow
ties" and get anyplace with the case. That's fairly obvious.

So you're going to have to go back to hangings or you're
going to have to go back to garrotes, or you're going to
have to go back to something that is dangerous around the neck.

Male voice: Ron, there was a process you mentioned once in
London, "Tell me something you wouldn't mind not
communicating with." And you said the more you ran this,
the deeper the guy went in the hole.

That's a good process - possibly a diagnostic process here.
I've been looking for diagnostic processes lately, and I
think you've hit it there. I think it'd be any process that
tended to run the guy into the hole, would be running him
up on the Rock.

For instance, one of the reasons "Things you are not going
to communicate with" or "Things you wouldn't mind going out
of communication with," so forth, would certainly include
the inhibitor.

But there is a rule about inhibitors that has been
demonstrated here recently in a series of tests I've made
and that is: don't monkey with the inhibitor if you
possibly can. The inhibitor isn't the thing; it is simply
the symptom of the condition.

And the more you disturb a field as itself, the more you
audit a field, the more you audit the non-communication of
an area, the more you seem to bring power into the original
creation which is the painful thing - the original creation
is the painful thing, not the inhibitor on top of it - so,
the more you shake up an inhibitor, the worse your preclear
is going to get. At least that seems to be the demonstrated
rule here about this time.

Male voice: Will he go into obsessively mocking up the thing
that..

Oh, yes. And it would get realer and realer and more and
more and more and more solid and rowhrrrr! You can, by the
way, turn on the Rock full scale, and I tried this several
times just on the theory that it'd show up and that he
would see it. And he never does.

One more?

Female voice: Uh-huh. On the question of your neckties,
back to the hangman, in running Help, would you run "How
could you help a hangman ?" or "How could you help a knot
around the neck?"

Ah, yeah.

Female voice: Which one would you run? "How could you help
a hangman?"

Oh, it doesn't matter, it's what stuck. It's what stuck.

Female voice: So "How could you help a hangman?" would work?

If that's the one that stuck.

Female voice: Thank you.

A "necktie," by the way, would perhaps pull off of it and
loosen up the needle. See, you might be able to skim the
lock off the top of the thing. You know? But you get just a
little closer in and anything connected with it'll start
sticking it. And then you really got to look sharp.

And remember the chain you're on when you're doing
something like that.

You can always free up one of these super-stuck needles by
running Connectedness. Remember that. And you can get the
individual back on out into present time and the physical
universe and key this thing out by redirecting his
attention. Remember, you can do this.

If you've really stuck a guy in deep and gotten nowhere,
why, just run some Connectedness and you'll loosen up the
needle and pull him out of it. You got that? That's always
the preventer on this analytic approach.

Okay Well, we've talked an awful long time, but I think you
needed quite a bit of information about this. Right?

Audience: Mm.

Think it's helped you out any?

Audience: Oh yeah. Yeah.

All right. Thank you.

Audience: Thank you.

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