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1st ACC PART TWO 19/20 Ext & Ph. of Space lectures

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EXTERIORIZATION AND THE PHENOMENA OF SPACE LECTURES

Originally called the Advanced Indoctrination Course Lectures (AICL)
and then renamed the 1st ACC (American Clinical Course).

The first 20 lectures were posted in PART ONE.


PART TWO OF FOUR

The Appendix which contains a copy of SOP 8, is included with
the first file.

Note that old lecture 19, which is extremely long, was divided
into 3 parts, numbers 21 to 23, for the clearsound version.


File Old#  New#  Date

01  19 10A  21  16 Oct 53 WHY A THETAN IS STUCK IN A BODY, PART I
02  19 10A  22  16 Oct 53 WHY A THETAN IS STUCK IN A BODY, PART II
03  19 10A  23  16 Oct 53 WHY A THETAN IS STUCK IN A BODY, PART II
04  20 10B  24  17 Oct 53 THINKING PROCESSES
05  20 10B  25  17 Oct 53 THINKING PROCESSES (CONTINUED)
06  21 11A  26  19 Oct 53 FORGET AND REMEMBER, GOOD AND EVIL
07  22 11B  27  19 Oct 53 FORGET AND REMEMBER, GOOD AND EVIL (CONTINUED)
08  23 12A  28  19 Oct 53 CHANGE PROCESSES, ACTION
  [ 24 12B  28? 19 Oct 53 CHANGE PROCESSES, CONTINUED - in above?]
09  25 13A  29  20 Oct 53 CERTAINTY OF ANCHOR POINTS PROCESSING
10  25 13A  30  20 Oct 53 CERTAINTY OF ANCHOR POINTS PROCESSING (CONTINUED)
11  26 13B  31  21 Oct 53 LIABILITIES OF BEING PROCESSED
12  33 17A  32  26 Oct 53 RESTIMULATION OF ENGRAMS, EXPERIENCES
13  34 17B  33  26 Oct 53 AN ASSUMPTION, LINES, CORDS, HAVINGNESS
14  35 18A  34  26 Oct 53 TIME, ASSUMPTION FACSIMILES, OVERT ACTS, DEDs
15  36 18B  35  27 Oct 53 FIXED ATTENTION, DUPLICATION, HOW TO AUDIT CHILDREN
16  37 19A  36  27 Oct 53 ASSESS., MEMORIES, RIDGES: DEMO: ACCEPTANCE PROC.
17  38 19B  37  27 Oct 53 DEMO: ACCEPTANCE LEVEL PROCESSING (CONTINUED)
18  39 20A  38  28 Oct 53 CASE REPORTS, SOP 8-C, SOP 8-L
19  40 20B  39  28 Oct 53 CASE REPORTS, SOP 8-C, SOP 8-L (CONTINUED)
20  41 21A  40  28 Oct 53 ANCHOR POINTS, SPACE, GAMES, DRILLS OF PROCESSES


Note that file 8 [new tape 28] probably includes both old 23 and
old 24 combined into one lecture.

These are the 2nd 20 lectures of this extremely large tape set
(84 cassettes in the Clearsound version).

These are based on the Clearsound version only.

Note that there are two early numbering systems for these lectures.

[From the pilot's tape master list as posted to the net -
The following are on the flag master list with no known copies, 
they are skipped in the cassette series -

%   27 14A  --  21 Oct 53 Processing to Step I
%   28 14B  --  21 Oct 53 Speed-up, Wasting
%   29 15A  --  22 Oct 53 Wasting Effects, etc.
%   30 15B  --  22 Oct 53 Wasting Effects cont., Looking
%   31 16A  --  23 Oct 53 Looking
%   32 16B  --  23 Oct 53 Change Processing

- we have not been able to locate copies of these - if anyone
has them, please post the transcripts to the net.]


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STATEMENT OF PURPOSE 

Our purpose is to promote religious freedom and the Scientology
Religion by spreading the Scientology Tech across the internet.

The Cof$ abusively suppresses the practice and use of
Scientology Tech by FreeZone Scientologists.  It misuses the
copyright laws as part of its suppression of religious freedom.

They think that all freezoner's are "squirrels" who should be
stamped out as heritics.  By their standards, all Christians, 
Moslems, Mormons, and even non-Hassidic Jews would be considered
to be squirrels of the Jewish Religion.

The writings of LRH form our Old Testament just as the writings
of Judiasm form the Old Testament of Christianity.

We might not be good and obedient Scientologists according
to the definitions of the Cof$ whom we are in protest against.

But even though the Christians are not good and obedient Jews,
the rules of religious freedom allow them to have their old 
testament regardless of any Jewish opinion.  

We ask for the same rights, namely to practice our religion
as we see fit and to have access to our holy scriptures
without fear of the Cof$ copyright terrorists.

We ask for others to help in our fight.  Even if you do
not believe in Scientology or the Scientology Tech, we hope
that you do believe in religious freedom and will choose
to aid us for that reason.

Thank You,

The FZ Bible Association

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1st ACC - 39

Transcript of lecture by L. Ron Hubbard AICL-40 renumbered
20B and again renumbered 39 for the "Exteriorization and
the Phenomena of Space" cassette series.


CASE REPORTS, SOP 8-C, SOP 8-L (CONTINUED)

A lecture given on 28 October 1953

[Based on the clearsound version only.]


All right. This is the second part of the morning lecture
of the 28th.

Throughout the world of man you will find very many
pleasant things occurring. And man isn't all bad, not
quite. Business isn't entirely crooked and so on, not
quite. I found an honest businessman once. He lived in
China. He was back - in a little back town in China. And 
I sent him some currency one time and told him to send me 
a couple of pieces of jewelry and he did. And there was no
receipt involved for the currency or anything. I mean, he
actually sent them and so forth. That's honest business. Of
course, I wouldn't strain that one too far. I wouldn't look
here in America and make that crack. 

But man in all of his behavior is being supported at this
time by a few fairly high-level thetans that kind of keep
things in line. Well, these fellows don't even know what
they're doing. Every once in a while somebody comes along
and - most of them, they don't know what they're doing.
They're trying to hold up a cultural level. But one by one,
back along the track, these boys have been getting yanked
in and pushed deeper.

Randomity in the past was very good - randomity in the last
part of the first thousand years since the end of the Roman
Empire, along about 800, 900 A.D., there was still quite a
bit of randomity. That was because nobody who amounted to
anything was going back through the screens. And you had
some fellow who was the king, and so forth, and he was a
pretty good thetan. And you had somebody who was a baron or
something of the sort. These boys hung around this way.
They seldom went into the church, but they would play
around at that level. So you had an actual divine rule by
families. You see, you could - king could count on the fact
that it was probably his grandpop in his boy. You know? The
guy - the guy hadn't - didn't go back through the Martian
screens or he didn't get messed up in any fashion and he
came in and he got born and he was, I mean, he took the
body that was offered and bapped the hell out of anything
else that was trying to get it. And along about the second
or third year, why, some nurse would say to him, "Now eat
your cereal." And he would be saying, "Did you add 'Your
Royal Highness' to that? No? Footman, ten lashes!" You
know, three, two. I mean, they had really imperial ideas.
You don't find that sort of thing happening.

At that time you still had a lot of thetans who were flying
around Earth who were not in bodies. They'd pick up one
occasionally or guide it around. You had thetans that were
still playing "King of the Wood." You had actual temples
which had actual spirits with them. You had phenomena
occurring which was miraculous. And in short, man was a bit
burdened by the fact that thetans like randomity.

But life was interesting. Life was very interesting all the
way across the boards, But it was too interesting for some
and gradually the Martian screens got very, very efficient.
I doubt there are very many thetans here on Earth today who
aren't making a routine trip, life to life. We're really
getting "Arslycusified" here on Earth. And you don't have
Apaches. Amongst the Apaches, now, you find it rather
routine, nobody has picked up the - nobody has picked up the
Apaches to amount to anything.

And you go find an Apache nnd you say, "All nght. Now let's
remember a time when you were up on that bluff;" or
something of the sort.

And he'd say, "Yes."

And you say, "When?"

"Oh, it was a couple of lifetimes ago I was up there." 

Routine, utterly routine.

And you say, "All right. Well, now, how far back can you 
remember?"

"Well, yeah."

You say, "What have you got there?"

"Oh, I killed a couple of US troopers. Gee."  That sort of
a reaction.

What's his level of reality on it? Same level of - probably 
a better level of reality than most Americans eating
breakfast. They're recalling back three, four, five lives
at a crack. In back of that the scenery is altered so much
that it's become unimportant. It's just the scenery itself
that has messed up their memory bank. Get the idea? There's
nothing to refer to so that you would have to handle them
with mock-ups, and so on.

Well, now, this wipeout between lives is a pretty, pretty
terrific snarl. But you start up a great deal of thetan
activity here on Earth again and you're going to get lots
of randomity.

Civilizations have existed on Earth which were very
pleasant civilizations. There have been very pleasant
things to do on Earth. People have been happy on Earth. War
was not always a depersonalized, you-get-drafted situation
but was very often a lot of fun. Greek war: "Well, I got
killed fighting Sparta last time." It was fabulous.

Now why these boys never put more of their own information
down on paper or left it coming along the track is not a
mystery. The information's been carefully destroyed -
carefully destroyed - by the one organization which was
supposed to be keeping it alive, corrupting it the whole
distance.

Now, let's watch what's happened to Dianetics and
Scientology. People have just been breathless trying to get
some kind of a claim on being authoritarian in Dianetics
and Scientology so they could turn it into buffoonery of
some sort or another. There hasn't been a person - and I
know a couple of places in the US which still profess to
have some claim to this. They expect me to go into a fight
on the subject all the time. That's real interesting.
Somebody comes in every once in a while, says, "Why don't
you do something about this?" And I had to think for a
while to figure out why I should do something about this.
And then I figured out that it was because they thought I
should do something about this.

But anyway, these places aren't even vaguely handing along
any information on the subject although still professing
themselves to be madly devoted to Dianetics; not even
vaguely handing out anything. They hand out the basic law
of survive and they hand out the dynamics. Then they run
two or three other laws in there that don't have anything
to do with this, see? And then that sort of flips things.
And then they take an AP&A; and they've taken Postulate
Processing and turned it around, one way or the other, so
it's not quite workable. And the people going through those
places are - this is not propaganda, I mean this is just a
demonstration point of this lecture are being sent to
spinbins all too often. It's not for your operating
information. That's just a demonstration of what happens
any time you try to put out information along a line which
will bring up and represent a greater freedom.

A greater freedom. Every time you mention a greater
freedom, you mention with the same words - you mention, to
most people, a greater terror. They think security actually
lies in being completely chained down.

But none of the data which should be handed forward on the
linc of the spirit, the soul, what you do after this life,
or anything of the sort, is being handed along by those
allegedly responsible for it. And the people at this
present time doing that, and for the last many hundreds of
years who were doing that, haven't even known they were
being irresponsible.

I doubt anybody has even dragged up   There's still some of
the dialogue - the dialogues of Plato are still in
existence which cover, to some slight degree, Theta
Clearing. And Homer is still in existence and it just beats
it to death!

And yet this is all - until just about sixty, seventy years
ago, Troy had never existed. Everybody was being very
careful about the fact that Troy had never even... I don't
know how on earth they could have missed Troy's existence
because it's the only place that you would have put a town.
And there were seven Troys or nine Troys (I think they've
gotten up to now). And how people would say there was no
town there was more than I can figure out. Is it nine now?

Audience: Fourteen.

Oh, they've now got down to fourteen. I haven't watched
them digging lately.

Well, it just shows you here that we're putting out at this
moment, at this very instant, a piece of information which
should have been carried along for a long time. But I'm
afraid you would have to go back pre-Earth to get this
data, because thetans didn't have this data by which to
prevent their going through these screens and taking care
of situations that they should have been taking care of. So
they'd evidently forgotten that they knew, but they didn't
even hand forward their own existence in a form that could
have been of any help to anybody here.

I don't know how far on the track you'd have to go back for
the definition of space. It's the only thing you're looking
for. It's all you're looking for. How far back do you have
to go on the track for a definition of space? You won't
find it in any electronic society or any space opera.
That's the last thing they would hand out to a space
technician: a definition of space - with a viewpoint in it?
Oh, no. No, we know viewpoints don't exist.

So, in short, they had other definitions of space. There
are more workable, materialistic definitions of space than
they have now, by the way. You can actually do fantastic
things with space if you just work with anchor points. But
if you don't have any viewpoint in there to represent it,
you never get humanity out of it. And that's why science
never leads to humanity; why science only leads to a
destruction, war, enslavement.

The condemnation of science is long overdue and, what do
you know, has already occurred on the European continent
and has occurred even in a more advanced state in England.
Today the word science is so bad that when I started
calling what we're doing Scientology I got in to a minor
revolution. It wasn't anything but the fact that the
English people today believe that science has let them
down but thoroughly. And anything with science connected
with it is something they rather smile sarcastically about.
It's not that they're interested in humanity. They just
know science doesn't work. And what do you know, they're
drawing right back out of science. They are not following
scientific method worth a nickel.

What's this got to do with what I'm telling you? It's
because what I'm telling you doesn't take very long to
tell. I'm trying to give you some sort of an idea of what
can occur to you and to people.

If you become free and able to operate, you won't find
yourself terribly interested in the baser games any more
than you go passionately and devotedly down to the corner
grocery store to watch a checker game if you 're living in
a small town; any more than you would drive five hundred
miles or something like that to watch a boys' grade school
play football. See, I mean, it's just not a game.

So we don't have to worry too much about disrupting what
takes place. But those - the society is suffering today from
a lack of clear view and randomity. It's suffering badly.
Otherwise, it would go down into a technological society.
Well, let's try to stop it from going down there. How do
you do this? Definition of space. It's as simple as that.

So we get to the process, which I'm giving you at this
time, which is "running eight anchor points in a bracket of
six." And if I give you this, I give you also no particular
responsibility on how to use it because the use of it
brings about all full responsibility, which is, of course,
no responsibility at all. But as you use it you're going to
see people come up through all the brackets there are to
come through, and one of those is cruelty. They can get
real cruel. Cruelty is pretty base actually. If a guy - if 
a guy can't have any sensation except by being cruel, he's 
in real bad shape.

You'll be bringing people up through ethics and all of this
level. Well, the only way to tell you where a person goes
with the use of such a process is just run it and find out.
But you're used to handling less effective processes, so
remember that this isn't a less effective process on this
universe, the other fellow's universe, and your own
universe. And by the time you run this and exteriorize your
boy, you can drop him anywhere you want on the exteriorization.

Well probably, with all the people we have here, we have
that many different ideas of how the society ought to run
in order to run well. We have this many different concerns
about existence. It's a funny thing - it might - you could
controlledly change a person's direction by running such a
technique. So remember that you can. The only thing that I
look toward this technique is rather puckishly look to the
fact that the least that'll happen is people will stop
going through the screens - the Martian screens. Yeah, it's
very upsetting. There's already a very large section of
the barracks and so forth up there really smoking. Some
places are just kind of mounds.

But here, let's get on to business, here. We've dillydallied 
around with this long enough.

A bracket of six is other people's space for other people
in which somebody else gets caught, as the additional
point. It makes this difference: that there's others for
others in which you get pinned down.

Somebody puts up some space for somebody else and it
surrounds you and you're there. It's not intended for you
and this is the innocent bystander. And the other one is
the technique of the other person is the innocent
bystander. Other people put up space for other people, hut
a third party gets caught in it. And that's the bracket of six.

And that goes this way: You have the preclear put up eight
anchor points for himself. What kind of anchor points? I
don't care. He doesn't care eithcr. And you'll find out
that somebody that's had - been in jail a couple of times, 
if you ask him to put up jail windows as the anchor points,
he'd get a real big certainty on it. He'd also get darned
upset. But the cssence on this thing is that it's run,
again, just as you handle the hack corners of the room,
without thinking. Each one of these is run without
thinking. Have the preclear put up anchor points. He can't
see? All right, have him put up black anchor points - eight
of them, in which he's sitting.

And then give him this that he has somebody else put up
eight anchor points for themselves. But he does it with
this. He gets them simply putting up eight anchor points
for themselves or himself See? Then it's others.

Now he gets other people putting up eight anchor points in
which he's situated but the anchor points being intended
for somebody else. That takes familial problem - a little
kid, parents; Papa got the home for Mama, but the kid's
there and he's not appreciated.

Now we get other people putting up anchor points for other
people in which, again, a third party is trapped. You see
how that would look? You get how it would look; that's the
main thing.

Now, let's get somebody putting up eight anchor points
which surround the preclear but not the other person. And
the preclear - by the way, early in the case, take this one
last - the preclear putting up eight anchor points for
somebody else.

Male voice: Around someone?

Yeah. That's just all in his own or other people's
universes. Get the idea? That's just own and other people's
universes. When he does that he's up against letting people
go free which is giving them space. And that one he will
care to ponder over for a long time but you don't worry
about him pondering, just have him put them up there.

Male voice: He's running out a punishment in brackets.

Mm-mm.

Male voice: Should he - should he know the people that he's
putting it up for? Should he be putting up for particular
persons or...

No. And the auditor never directs who. Just put it up for
somebody else or put it up - next time you go through the
bracket, just say, "Put it up for other people. Put up
space for other people now."

Now, you want him to put up just one piece of space, in
other words, eight anchor points making one cube of space.

Now, the essence of a technique is that he's making space,
but space in brackets. And not - if you can possibly get him
over this very early, if his case is bad off, you'll have
to just bust in very rudely and tell him, "All right. Now,
other people as spirits or thetans and the space for you as
a thetan." And he keeps wobbling with this because he keeps
sitting in this space as a body and he keeps putting it up
for other bodies. The hell with bodies! Let's get earlier.
Let's get more natural. Let's not go to the other person
through the stage of a body and all that sort of thing.
Just get it put up for him as a - as a thetan. Because if 
you keep doing this with a body, you'll just start melting 
the body down, and it gets gluier and gluier and gluier. It
won't do any harm, but it's just no, no dice. You want it
put up for him as a thetan. And you can explain to him what
a thetan is, "Your spirit, then."

"Oh," he'll say, "my spirit. All right. I'll put it up over
here as - so my spirit can..." That's the Christian church,
you see? The Christian church tells you that you have to
save your soul. And then they call themselves "spiritualists" 
and "religionists." Very, very amazing. They fix it up so 
nobody can have a soul. The soul is always a third party -
third party to the church and third party to the - for the 
religious person.

All right. Now, when you run this bracket of six, round and
round and round and round and round, you'll notice that
your preclear has a tendency to get very philosophical.
Now, if you simply shut him off and tell him "No, no,
Just don't think about it," and so forth, "just get on with
the process," and so on, you will inhibit your communication 
with him to a degree where he will start going through the 
process mechanically and it will - it won't stop the process, 
but it'll take longer.

Now, because something happened to him with this process is
no reason it won't happen again and that puts this process
immediately on the other side of the borderline. The
process you've been handling is if it happened to him once,
he somehow or other managed to stop it froni happening
twice. Well, he can't stop this one from happening twice if
you just continue to run it because it continues to run out
what's happened to him. It runs out itself.

You can do all sorts of things with this. You can put space
within space within space within space. And the way you do
that is tell him "Now, all right. Now, you got eight anchor
points around yourself. Now, put eight more anchor points
around that." In other words, space enspacing space.
Various tremendous differences - variation. But you don't
have to worry about doing that. Just take it in a bracket
of six and you've got it - mechanical, very mechanical.

Now you turn around and you use the room he's in or the
town he's in as an actual piece of MEST. And instead of him
holding the two back corners of the room, you have him hold
all eight corners of the room, and then have somebody else
hold them, and other people hold them from [for] other
people, and then him hold them for somebody else and then
somebody else hold them for him - the corners of the room.

And having gone through that bracket of five, you go back
to his own and other people's universe in a bracket of six.
Then you go back into this five again, and then into this six.

Now, sometimes you teach a pilot to fly and he'll learn
accidentally to fly with his left wing slightly low. Well,
let's not do that on this process, huh? In other words,
let's not learn it wrong first and then keep on using it
with a slip.

Terrifically simple process. And I'll give you the patter.
Now, we have preclear X - don't anybody run this right now,
please - we have preclear X. He's sitting up here... Oh,
throw me a preclear from back of the room. You've got a
doll around there someplace. Good.

All right. We've got this preclear here. You say to this
preclear... You hypnotized or something? We got this
preclear and we say, "Okay, put up for yourself eight
anchor points." Now, the auditor stays in communication
with the preclear.

Preclear says, "All right, I've done it."

And the auditor says, "You did? Where?"

"Oh, out there in the next county," or someplace.

No, the hell with that. "Put up eight anchor points around you."

"Well, how do I put them?"

"Well, put four above you and four below you.

"Well, I can't see. How can I put up eight anchor points?
What are you talking about anchor points, anyhow? What is
an anchor point?"

"Well, an anchor point is just a point."

"Well, what is a point?"

"Well, a point is just a point, you understand?"

"Well, but what is it?"

"Well, you see that cigarette package?"

"Yeah, all right."

"You've got this cigarette package? Afl right, put up eight
cigarette packages around you."

"Well, I can't - I can't see. I mean, I'm totally occluded,
really. Honest"' The preclear's saying, "I'm actually very
occluded and I can't see and can't feel, can't hear very
well as a thetan and I can't get out of my body." 

This is, by the way, it's just done when you hit Step III
which is what we're doing; we've done Steps I and II on
this preclear. 

All right. He thinks he's stopped you, see?

You say, "Okay now, put up eight black anchor points around
you the size of this cigarette package."

Kills him. He's dead now; he's got to do that. So he
resigns and he puts up eight of them. He puts them up - 
one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. And you 
say, "Okay." You say, "All right. Now, put up eight anchor
points..." No, no. "Have somebody else put up eight
anchor points," you say at this stage. "Have somebody else
put up eight. Mock it up, all right."

See, you don't have to run these brackets in sequence. And
once in a while, if you'll shift the sequence on a bracket
it breaks down his randomity. He's got a monotony on this
and he's got a randomity resistance and so he'll start
doing something automatically. By the way, he can do this
very automatically and it still does terrible things to
him. But you can always break down a bracket.

All right. So, he puts up this person out here in front of
him or this idea of a person out here in front of him. He
says, "I'm still awfully occluded." He says, You've turned
on a terrible headache, but I'm still awfully occluded."

And you say, "Now have that person put up eight anchor
points." And he says, "But I - he - he - I can't see ..."

"Well, you can have him see them."

"Well, okay."

So, you put up these eight anchor points - these eight black
anchor points - around this other person. He puts four down
here at the feet of this other person and then he puts four
up here. As soon as he's got those, he's said, "Sure I've
got those."

Now you say to him, 'All right. Now get - now you get the
other people putting up anchor points for other people, but
you're in the middle of those anchor points."

He says, "How do I do that?"

"Well, you got some other people over there on the left
side of you."

"Okay"

"All right. Now, have them put them up so there's some
people over here on the right side of you. Got that?"

"Okay"

"All right. Now have these people over here on the left
side of you put up eight anchor points around you that are
really intended for the people that are over there on the
right side of you. You got that?"

"Oh yeah, I can do that."

"Okay." He puts them up again around himself.

Okay. Now, you say, "Have other people put them up for
other people in which somebody else gets enclosed."

"Well I don't get that."

"Well, come out here in front of you. Come out here in
front of you. And have some people out here on your port
bow and have these people out here put up anchor points for
these people out here. But have this other person be in the
middle of them."

"Oh, that's too complex. I can't do that."

"Well, can you get an idea of other people being out there?"

"Yes."

"Can you get the idea that there ever been anybody else out there?"

"Yes."

"Well, that's all right. That'll do for that step."

"Now, let's you - let's - you, flow, hold on to the upper two
back corners of the room without thinking about it."

By the way, if he starts thinking, he's actually wrecking
the process. He can think this process into a null. It's
the only way he can flip it, is start thinking about, "Gee,
that reminds me of this and reminds me of that and
associative logic and it's all so meaningful, so significant, 
so significant..." All he's doing is bailing into this space 
all this terrific amount of garbage; and you're trying to get 
space and he's trying to fill it up. See how that amounts to?

So you say, "Well, all right. Now get in the back of your
head here, someplace - you - just kind of get the idea of
holding on to those two back corners of the room. You got
that? All right, hold on to the rest of the corners of the
room. Well, you got that? Okay. Well, you don't get that
very plainly. Oh, you want to know what they look like?
Well, you'll find out sooner or later. Oh, you want to take
a look? Well, all right, take a look. Okay. You got ahold
of them, now?"

"Yeah, yeah. I've got ahold of them."

"Okay. Now, have somebody else take ahold of them and hold
them there."

"Okay. My father. Yes, I often remember my father used to ..."

"No, just a minute, just a minute. Just you have - have
somebody else hold on to them. Is it all right?"

"Okay."

"Now; what about getting other people to hold on to them
for somebody else?"

"Sure. Well, that's always me and my brother! You know we
used to fight like mad," and so forth.

"That's terribly interesting. Your brother lived a long
time, I'm sure he is, right? Okay? That's fine. Now, you
got somebody else holding on to them for somebody else?"

"Oh, I forgot about that. I was disturbed there for a
moment." Okay. Now we're holding on to them.

"Well, how long am I supposed to do this?" the preclear 
says.

"Well you just - just do it."

"Well how long though?"

"Well, just do it."

"Well, how long am I really supposed to hold on to these
anchor points of other people holding them on to for other
people?"

Doesn't like that - butchery. You've hit something hot, see.
When he starts protesting about how long he's doing it and
so forth, just plow it to him. Don't even think about it.
Don't even talk about it. Just make him do it.

If left to his own devices at that point he would simply
quit the process and say, "There is a process. It's
undoubtedly a good process and I'll have to run it sometime."

All right, So we've got to make sure that any time he gets
real interested in not doing it, that he does it. We can
do this very persuasively and very quietly, We don't have
to hit him over the head with a chair but be prepared to do
the latter if he won't. Okay.

Now we've got this person again and we say, "All right. Now
put up eight anchor points around for yourself."

"Oh, you mean hold on to the corners of the room for myself 
again?"

"No, no just put up your own little space for yourself.
Okay. Now what have you got there?" Well, here's what he's
got. Body, eight unchor points.

"Now, you put those up..." This is the second time around. 
"You put those up for you as though you were a spirit and 
the body had nothing to do with it."

"Well, I can get that idea. I've read a couple of books. I
know what you were telling people the other night and so
on. Seems sort of unbelievable, but..."

You say, "Will you please get that as a spirit?"

"Okay."

"Now you got it? What's the matter?" Silence.

You can fully expect that to happen. The guy's done a bunk!
He had an argument on the situation. Now you can expect
that to happen anytime in this process. But don't expect it
to happen as a sudden phenomenon, I'm merely informing you
that it will occasionally happen as one. It'll happen usually 
as a very orderly and routine phenomenon - just routine.

So, he puts up these for himself. And then he puts them up
again, as we went over it the first time. Has somebody else
put them up - eight points out there around this other
person. And then we have other people put them up for other
people with the preclear inside the points. And then this
other person - other people put them up for other people
with this other person inside the points. But each time
we're steering him just a little bit closer to this idea of
a spirit. See, we don't give it to him that time. We don't
give him the double whamnzo on his own universe. We give it
to him on this one.

"Now get yourself as a being, you know, as a being without
a body, holding on to the eight corners of the room."

"Well, I will, but it doesn't seem very real."

"I don't care how real it is, just hold on to them. Now,
get somebody else, as though he were a spirit, holding on
to the corner of the room."

Now, you hold the preclear's head on at that moment if
you're real smart. Because the sudden idea that some other
spirit might be in the room, something of the sort, is
liable to just plain murder him.

If your preclear is really skittish - really skittish and
real scared about things - what you would do is run this all
the way around being very quiet about spirits for some
time, and you'd sure run "making space for other spirits,
other beings," and let him hold that for a little while,
because he'll get in - very philosophical about whether he
ought to go on with this or not or whether you're really
doing anything real good or not, or why you probably should
take it very easy about this whole thing, because he is not
willing to let other spirits go free. He's all right to let
bodies go free. That's different. Spirits are dangerous.
Bodies aren't.

So, we have him and other people, as spirits, hold on to
the eight corners of the room for other spirits. Now, if he
objects to the word spirit (it's just a word; it's a
communication symbol), shift it around, call them thetans.
If he objects to the word thetan, call them ghosts. If he
objects to the word ghost, call them life units. You know,
if you have a scientist, you can always say life units.
Sounds so scientific. All right.

He goes through that again. And now we. say, "All right.
Now get you, as a spirit, holding eight anchor points
around yourself. You got that? What color do you say they
are? Oh, they're gold. Well, that's right. That's perfectly
correct. They ought to be. All right. Now, let's get eight - 
somebody else as a spirit holding eight anchor points around 
him, got that?"

"Yes."

"All right. Now get some spirits holding eight anchor points 
for some other spirits, but you're in the middle of them."

"Middle of the spirits?" 

"No, in the middle of the anchor points - middle of the
anchor points." 

"Oh, in the anchor points. That's all right, then."

"And now we get other people - other people holding eight
anchor points up for other - other beings holding eight
anchor points out here for some entirely different beings
but somebody else in the middle of the anchor points."

"Oh, sure."

"Okay, Now have you, as a spirit, put up eight anchor
points for other thetans."

"Mm-mm." He won't like that, so you let him hold that one
for a while.

"But, now get other spirits - other thetans - putting up
eight anchor points for you." He won't like that very good
either but he'll let it happen.

And we go around through the walls of the room again and so
forth. Very shortly you're going to have to take in bigger
space. You better be - hold on a couple of planets or
something of the sort; it's easier. The other is kind of
crowded. But eventually you can come back to making him do
a spacation beautifully in a matchbox with perfect comfort
and ease.

You see, that's a symptom of dispersal, the idea of having
to occupy the whole flam-bam universe just to get some
distance. That's why I talked about it on that line as
people find it so very agreeable to hold on to planets. But
you can do a spacation in a matchbox or in a small
microphone or in a tube. Of course, if you start doing it
in an electronic tube and the machine's in use, it's liable
to short-circuit. But anyway...

We have this preclear now to a point where he's getting, at
least at this point, he's getting yank-ins and outs or some
such thing. He's getting these tensional snap-lines and
things like that. And it may be - it may be that some
terrifically terrific thought has occurred to him. You
suddenly find out that he has spent a year in prison. Well,
believe me, that is the state fixing his space. Or even
worse, he's been in the navy for a year or so, or he's been
in the army.

It's not stepping out of line at all to vary the process at
the moment he discloses this - or that he has sent somebody
to prison, is what will turn up immediately after this, by
the way, or he's done something to somebody. It's the overt
act-motivator sequence. You're just getting space. It
varies the procedure to have him put up some army hats or
some navy hats or something of the sort as his next anchor
points. It just varies it, you understand. It isn't good,
it's just different. Just plain anchor points is always
best because the more you let him think and the more you
let him put up objects which are in terms of his immediate
environment and this immediate culture, the more you're
making him agree that the culture can affect him. So, you
just have him put up anchor points. Well, you just go over
it that way. I mean, just go round and round - just round and
round - a bracket of six.

Now what questions are there on this?

Female voice: You don't have somebody putting up anchor
points for the person they were intended for. That is,
having a third person for whom the anchor points were
intended be in that space at all?

You can. You can vary it any way you want to. There is no
sigrnficance to this beyond the fact that you've gotten the
various combinations of thought and interpersonal relations
and you're untangling them. The problem is essentially,
one, the problem of co-ownership of MEST. You're trying to
get the preclear up so he doesn't care who owns that stuff.
He can use it for anchor points. You're booting him out of
secrecy, hiding, protection, ownership, being dead, being
invisible, all of these various things. You're just booting
him right on up the line. That's why this is a terribly
dangerous process and why I'm a very dangerous man to have
released such a process.

You just keep this up. How many hours will it take? Well,
on you I would say - on any case that's hanging fire around
here - I'd say twenty or thirty hours of this, maybe fifty or
sixty, maybe eighty, ninety, a hundred hours, or something
like that, because of the case's time estimate having been
processed for a long time on older techniques. Somebody
who just walks in off the street, I'd say about five, ten
to twenty minutes - case equally rough.

And the other thing is, is a fellow can enjoy the hell out
of this, by the way, First moment he sees some beautiful
anchor points and Saint Elmo's fire glowing off the roofs
of houses and lighting up the surrounding countryside and
so on, he gets just real happy about it.

I told you yesterday that you made MEST by pulling the
affinity out of mass and energy, And therefore, you blow it
up again by just adding some affinity to it. What is this
stuff you're building automobiles out of and using for
automobiles and wearing as clothes? What is this stuff that
you're combing and - what is this stuff?

Well, this process shows a fellow rather rapidly what stuff
it is. It's just facsimiles gotten real hard. He eventually
gets the idea, he eventually comes up the line and we can
forecast this for you because you'll be running it yourself
very shortly, but it's very amusing. When I first tripped
into this level and just started applying basic definition
of space to processing itself, as processing and I'd ask
somebody to start this on the MEST universe and he'd come
on up Tone Scale with great rapidity. "Gee," he says.
"Yeah," he says, "it's a lot of work building this stuff"
he says, "but you sure can enjoy it after you've got it.
Yeah, a lot of work." Level of concern about the MEST 
universe.

Of course, the idea that he's still got these particles
around which have been made in the past, that doesn't upset
him any, I mean, he might as well use secondhand anchor
points as new anchor points. So what! Thirdhand anchor
points, twelfthhand anchor points. Repair them if you want
to. Work with them if you want to. If you don't have
something to exert energy against, you're fighting nothing.

Have I closed circuit on what I'm teaching you?

If you get a guy to fighting nothing all the time, if he's
just putting out his own anchor points all the time, all he
can fight is his own anchor points. But if he's got
something around there that is co-owned, somehow or
another, he can at least satisfactorily, and rather
pleasantly, lean up against it and get a nice hard shove
back that often surprises him a great deal.

Now, it's up to you to know what this stuff is and it's up
to you to use this technique.

Now, I'm wasting auditing by not taking our rougher cases
and going over them but there isn't much reason why I
should. Because we're up at a level there where this
technique doesn't get spoiled except as you might, as an
auditor completely bust up with a preclear so badly that
you drive the preclear out of communication entirely.
That's about the only thing you could do because this keeps
undoing these various things that are done with great
speed. How fast does this blow a lifetime? Well, that's up
to you to find that out. Just too fast actually. You've
gone to all this work living all this horrible life and
collect all this beautiful sadness. Just start putting up
Spacation in brackets of six - gone!

Oh, so you have to mock it all up again. You realize that
you could have mocked up a much better life in the first
place and that makes you feel very happy about the whole
thing. And then, everybody knowing this technique knows
you've probably mocked up the past you're talking about and
so forth, and knows you probably aren't using the other
because you had this technique used on you and probably
you don't have the other and it's not true and it's not
real, so they probably won't listen to you. So they
probably don't have any sense of aesthetic anyway.

Boy, if you can get a thetan to communicate with a thetan
in the lower stages of processing, you're really doing
wonders. People say, once in a while - once in a while in a
lecture, somebody will say to me, "Well, why don't you just
talk to us on theta beams?" Somebody who's real mystic, you
know; telepathy on the brain. Boy, if you can get any
thetan after he's been exteriorized who hasn't had such a
process as this run on him, such as making space for
others, hrrr-murder! You haven't had this process run on
him - just about as much as get him to listen to you as you'd
get a bullet to stop in midflight and come back and load
itself. They just don't hang around.

Now, in using this process, you can flub it any way you
want to and it'll still pick itself up again. But you're
into the over-the-border case - the process which lets
itself be repeated. Those beautiful gold anchor points -
once a fellow has seen those he'll give up an awful lot of
beautiful sadness and motivator hunger just to have them
again. They're really nice, nice; Saint Elmo's fire glowing
all over everything.

I've seen a preclear sit after I'd run this process on him,
just sit and sit and do nothing but put it on top of
lampposts and out in the street and put it on top of
things. And he isn't actually in his body anymore, he gets
so interested in doing this. He's just fooling around.
It's sort of - he's reassuring himselt "My God, it can happen
after all these years.

Okay. Any questions about this again? I've presented it to
you rather lengthily, rather discursively. One of the
reasons I've done that is so you won't use it as a
completely automatic process and so you can expect things
to happen to personalities. Because they will.

Male voice: Uh....

What?

Male voice: Just one question.

Right.

Male voice: This is a Step III process?

This is Step III. After you've done it for a while, you
simply flip back to Step I, and let's go again.

Male voice: But you wouldn't use it on...

It's very surprising to find a fellow very often is already
exteriorized before you got him to Step I.

Male voice: You wouldn't use it on a lower-step case?

Hm?

Male voice: You wouldn't use it on a lower-step case?

Than III? Yes. Yeah, I'd use it all the way through. I
said - this is any one of these doggone Processes - you just
keep nagging the fellow, plus and minus, long enough to get
out of your head.

You know, you don't realize that we're classified normally
as - processing is some second cousin to therapy, you see;
so we don't thoroughly appreciate the fact that this really
isn't therapy we're doing. We're working with life. This is
living we're doing. We're looking over the business of
living and trying to take a deep breath right here in
midflight down the time track, trying to discover whether
or not there isn't something more to be known than what
we've been doing. And you can actually exteriorize any
case, including a psychotic case, merely by telling him to
get out of a head. That's all you have to do, is just tell
somebody to be out of his head or tell somebody not to be
out of his head. You can do it right straight up. It - you
see, it's this society that gives you the limitation.

When I say that - when I say that, a Roman would understand
this immediately, You can always get a guy out of his head,
not necessarily by killing him. A Roman would say,
probably, "Why, gee, you wouldn't even have to kill the
tough case sometimes. Just be reasonable to him."

You take anybody and shoot him in the arm with a hypo
needle and tell him to leave and he'll go. Just lean over
an unconscious man and so forth and say, "How about you - how
about you going out and finding a baby in Arizona?" You'd
have a dead body on your hands. They were that close. Many
a doctor has sent his nurse for an instrument and the
thetan has departed and the body died on the operating
table. See what's basically haywire with engrams? See?

"Go down in the next block and get me a paper." If - see -
if he just said go down the next block or go into the next
room or something like that forcefully enough to a thetan
that thinks it ought to be obedient when it's anesthesed,
why, you'd get results, you see? I mean, you're really
handling dynamite.

There's nothing easier than to hypnotize somebody and say,
"All right, now be in Philadelphia. Now be in the city
hall. Are you in the city hall? Very good. Grab a hold of
the mayor's head. You've got his head? Now, give him a
terrible headache. You've done that? That's very good. Now
be back in your body, 3-2-1 wake up."

And this is very elementary stuff we're playing with. I
mean, these things happen. These are the routine. But
people can't dare - don't dare look at that routine at any
time. It's too simple. Really spoil the game like mad.
Well, how would you have the game "army or army air force"
being run on Earth, if all the political problems of Earth
were simply solved by one guy in a government office with
dirty shirt sleeves, or something of the sort, who merely
did a little hypnotizing of young boys that he picked up
down at the orphanage, and they went over and put all the
political opponents of the nation into a frame of mind
necessary to resolve all the problems of the international
situation? And yet you could do that, you see, but you'd
just spoil that game "army," You'd spoil the game
"taxpayer," too. Now, all of those problems would get spoiled.

Well, all right. You very well may, as you run this
process, you.  I told you in advance that you can be fully
prepared to run it on somebody in this unit here much
longer than you'd run it on somebody off the street. Not
that the cases are resistive because the fellow is here
with a different idea. He wants to see what's happening!
Your task is to make it happen to him not to something
which he mocks up so he can inspect it, so that he can
study it and know more about it.

So, let's just get busy and I'm it's probably premature of
me to push this process through like this for the good
reason that I don't have to get out and scrounge up some
preclears. I think that possibly I'll do something on
polio. You think I ought to do something on polio? Would
you like to see a few cases suddenly walk again or something 
like that? Okay, I'll do something about that today.

That's the end of the talk.

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