 I just got a wonderful wire. Just got a wonderful wire from somebody,
 day or so ago, and they were going to send me a registered letter that had 
 to be very secret about this whole thing and of course I m expected and John 
 and Helen are expected to sort of hang on the ropes waiting for this letter 
 to appear and it just came just now. And that s why I look so pale and 
 frightened. Somebody has just run into one of the standard manifestations. 
 They pick a pc off the street, you see, and they start running them and this 
 pc gets the idea that.. uh.. he is practically the Prince of Darkness or 
 something of the sort and it s all a big plot. 
 
 Now they just start asking this; the person up to this moment has 
 appeared perfectly a Homo sapiens. And they re the Prince of Darkness from 
 Venus or someplace you see and that there s a terrible plot out against 
 everybody in Scientology. And everybody better be very very careful to put up 
 force screens so that nothing like this can get in and so. I m going to send 
 him back a letter. Uh.. so.. uh.. you say you have some connection with the 
 Prince of Darkness out there and you re very worried about this. Who do you 
 think I am? 
 
 Well, we are to some slight degree fortunate when we re taking this 
 serious here. It s fortunate for me, at least. It s fortunate for a student 
 from the standpoint of study. We.. we have, imagine this, just imagine this, 
 we have a textbook printed in advance of a lecture. And there is a complete 
 text on the material which I m going to give you in the next three weeks. And 
 it s called SCIENTOLOGY 8-8008. And it was a book which I wrote in England 
 and which is being put through the mill there, and in view of the fact that 
 the book was typed by a former BBC program typist, one of these people that 
 takes it straight off the platter you know or straight over the air from some 
 foreign station and puts it down, and as a result it was taken off the 
 records and put onto stencils, and put into a mimeograph machine. And that 
 right now is being completed over there and is being air expressed here for 
 you and your use. 
 
 Now.. uh.. the subject and coverage in it is probably completely 
 incomprehensible without the lectures, cause all it is is simply a machine 
 gun bap bap bap on precise definitions. Just definitions, uh.. phenomena and 
 how you do it, comprises maybe two pages in this book. And well all the data 
 is there and all the definitions are there. And so I m going to orient these 
 lectures against that book and as you take notes here, you will find that 
 your notes will correspond with this book. 
 
 Now this is the only existing copy which is here. And it starts out 
 with the beingness of man and Scientology as a science of knowing how to 
 know. It starts out with survival and the dynamics and gives in its first 
 chapter a very brief rundown of the material which has already appeared in 
 DIANETICS: MODERN SCIENCE OF MENTAL HEALTH, SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL, SELF 
 ANALYSIS, HANDBOOK FOR PRECLEARS, ADVANCED PROCEDURES AND AXIOMS, and 
 SCIENTOLOGY 8-80. 
 
 SCIENTOLOGY 8-80 is a very good reference book. But it was one of 
 those things which.. which happened and then was all very quick and before 
 the book got anyplace, why results were being produced otherwise. It is an 
 account of phenomena which we have to have here, but we are no longer using 
 the techniques of 8-80. They re old. It s been several weeks. It s been 
 several weeks. 
 
 Now, related to that I want to say one point about that. The study of
 Dianetics is a study of Homo sapiens in his behavior manifestation. Now the 
 moment you take Homo sapiens apart you 11 find out that he is a four-way 
 composite. He comes into four chunks; he falls rapidly into four pieces. And 
 
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 the second he fell into four pieces in my hands it was utterly necessary to
 go off and find out which one of those pieces we continued with. So just to
 be novel and unique about it, we took the preclear. Now other people.. other
 people might have had other opinions about this, but we thought taking the 
 preclear was a good bet. 
 
 Well the second you take the preclear you find yourself addressing 
 something which seems to be, and seems to itself and himself or herself to 
 be, an energy production unit which exists almost as a non-dimensional point
 existing in space. And this energy production unit is quite separable from 
 the body. This is the easiest part that we have to do, is how to take these
 pieces apart. Hardly anything to it. 
 
 Now to make something out of the pc from there on is a little bit 
 harder and we ll have to study hard on that particular subject. Now actually
 we could release Standard Operating Procedure for theta clearing and put it
 into people s hands. Of course, a lot of them get into a lot of trouble. And
 a lot of things would happen and people would get.. Four professional 
 auditors one night called me up and said, "We got a preclear stuck in the 
 ceiling we can t get her off." 
 
 So I said, "Well put the body on the telephone" and you could hear 
 things creaking around. And they held the telephone to the body s ear and I
 tried to get in communication, I couldn't do it. The body was not responding.
 And.. uh.. so I had to go over and sit down and go on over there and take a
 look and finally with practically wave processing had this person running the
 "glee of irresponsibility." And running it as a dichotomy against the 
 "glories of responsibility" back and forth and all of a sudden, why, she was
 able to pry herself off the ceiling and get back into her body again. This 
 was a great relief to people. It s always a great relief to people for some
 reason or another when they see the body become animate once more. 
 
 It has something to do with police; there s such an objection on the
 part of the police to have bodies around that don t breath and so on. I don t
 know, it s some fixation or psychosis with them, they want the heart running
 and so on. It s a very funny thing. The police come in they find a body 
 without its heart running something like that, they get real upset about it.
 And take people off and book them and put em in electric chairs and they re
 quite extreme about this. And it will begin to look to you after a while, as
 you continue on with this study.. this begins to look to you just as sensible
 as getting somebody electrocuted because his radio isn't turned on. Somebody
 comes in, finds the radio, then that s very bad. 
 
 Well, anyway, the release of Standard Operating Procedure for theta 
 clearing Issue One, we re now working on Issue Three. That s what we re 
 teaching here now. Be Issue Four next week but that s all right. 
 
 If you took Standard Operating Procedure, you could read it over, and
 you would go out and about fifty percent of the people you would process with
 it. Get that English drag over process. The British and I made a compromise.
 They stopped calling it theeta like theeta clears and so forth and they call
 it theta now. And I stopped saying praucessing and started calling it 
 processing. So we made a bargain, a treaty on it. 
 
 Now the point is that Standard Operating Procedure is fifty percent,
 the first fifteen minutes, you've got a theta exterior. In the first fifteen
 minutes of play, in fifty percent of your cases and probably it s twenty-five
 or thirty hours for the toughest of the cases. That s a long time. Well when
 I say a long time now, measured in terms of ten hours. That s a long time. A
 very, very long time would be twenty-five hours of processing. 
 
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 All right, now what happens then, that if you could go out and you 
 could make a theta clear in the first ten or fifteen minutes of play on about
 fifty percent of the people that you ran into. Just this run-of-the-mill, not
 people in Dianetics there, they've already ceased to be Homo sapiens and are
 a little bit tougher to handle. But just people off the street. Why, what 
 would really be the sense in, in.. What s all this body of stuff that you 
 have to know in connection with that? Well, there s several points there. 
 
 One is that the other fifty percent of the cases are resolvable but 
 they re only resolvable with skill, considerable skill. You can resolve them
 with running ded dedexes and Technique 88. You actually could resolve them if
 you just sat down and plugged for about 200 hours with irresponsibility and
 responsibility and irresponsibility and responsibility, Just assessed it and
 found out what they would want to be responsible for and what they wouldn't
 want to be responsible for and just get them to run this by flows and run it
 and the next thing you know, maybe in fifty hours, a hundred hours, two 
 hundred hours, your preclear s standing out in the middle of the room looking
 at the body saying, "I didn't know you could get outta that thing. What was I
 doing in it?" That would be by Technique 88. Well, that s an awful long time
 for an auditor to invest. There are much faster methods. 
 
 Now using ded dedex running on flows you could probably do it in 
 something like fifty hours. But.. uh.. that s too long and there s, of 
 course, more reasons why you have to know this additional data. 
 
 Ded dedex running is nowhere near as effective as creative 
 processing. Nowhere near as effective. That brings it down to maybe.. I don t
 know.. depends how skillful the auditor is with it, because that is something
 which is a set formula on which you can play anything, but sometimes one 
 auditor plays a little bit better tune than another auditor on this and he 
 gets a little bit faster results. There s not terrible variation in the 
 thing. 
 
 But, uh.. well, if you could use creative processing with regard to 
 theta clearing, what we call a Case Five, why.. uh.. that would be just 
 wonderful. And twenty-five hours for a tough case, that would be very nice.
 
 Well, what do you know? There s a faster process called spacation. 
 Isn't that a wonderful word. I made that up all by myself. You won t find it
 in any dictionaries. It means a process having to do with the rehabilitation
 of the creation of space, process having to do with the rehabilitation of 
 creation of space. That s spacation. It also would have a second meaning. 
 And.. uh.. that meaning would be, you see we, in English we don t have a word
 which means creation of space. People overlook this word or didn't have the
 information or didn't get the word or were just stupid about all this or 
 something. But you keep making this space called NEST universe all the time.
 If you weren't here there wouldn't be any space. But you keep making it. And
 you re stuck with it at the moment. 
 
 Spacation, as a process, would be one thing. Now it would have 
 another meaning. It would have another meaning. It would mean the subject of
 space, the subject of space. And we call the process spacation and spacation
 would be the subject of space. This is above the subject of energy. 
 
 Now.. uh.. in order to use these techniques, in order to get very 
 rapid results, there s a considerable body of information connected with the
 thetan, all the rest of the various parts of a human being. But, don t think
 that s the only reason you have to have this information. It s actually a 
 dirty trick to make a theta clear out of somebody without passing him the 
 data that should go with it. He does not, he doesn't automatically know. 
 
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 His knowingness is high, but that s potential knowingness. That s only 
 potential. And there s actual data that goes along with the subject of being
 a theta clear. He doesn't know this instinctively. If he knew this 
 instinctively, he would not be here in the MEST universe. Make up your mind
 to that, if he knew all this data. 
 
 So, so, you particularly as an auditor have to know the most 
 astonishing subject. I.. I don t think this subject has ever been taught here
 on Earth before. Ah, there've been some wild subjects taught here. There s 
 been "Nazi intelligence services, the conduct thereof," wildest subject I 
 know practically to date. All sorts of subjects, they've taught things called
 elementary physics, real wild subjects. They teach in universities now they
 teach "atomic and molecular phenomena" under the name of "nuclear physics" 
 and teach it as though they knew. There s wild things going on, but no 
 subject as wild as this. 
 
 Fortunately, very few subjects are as elementary or as basically 
 simple in their parts as this. So on the one hand when you say what this 
 subject is, you can expect people s hair to stand on end. And then if you 
 went ahead and explained its various component parts and it might only take
 you three weeks, they would suddenly realize that the subject was knowable.
 And that s one of the first things you've got to know when I announce this 
 subject to you. The subject is knowable, quite knowable. And you can satisfy
 yourself that it s knowable in a very short space of time. You can satisfy 
 yourself the first day you use creative processing, you will suddenly realize
 that you are handling a knowable subject, then you realize that you re 
 studying then this subject, don't be too shocked. Because you are studying 
 the anatomy of universes. The construction, maintenance, destruction of 
 universes of various kinds and dimensions with concomitant component parts. I
 just threw the last in to make it sound good. 
 
 You re studying the basic structure. This is the most elementary 
 level of its study. We re studying the basic structure and experience. Get 
 that, structure and experience, called the MEST universe. That's the most 
 elementary of these studies. 
 
 Now the reason we have to study this, and the only reason we have to
 study this is because it sums up into what they laughingly call natural laws.
 And these natural laws are the outgrowth of the composite agreement of all 
 the beings in this universe. These laws, you might say, are the inevitable 
 average of agreement if you start out with something like the first entrance
 into the MEST universe. The first postulates of the MEST universe. If you 
 start out from there, you wind up seventy-six trillion MEST universe years 
 later with things squirreled up the way they are. 
 
 Now when you get this basic agreement, when you get all these 
 agreements summed up, you'll find out that they are statable, very accurately
 statable. Another thing, they're experienceable, which is more important. And
 they're experienceable by a preclear ten minutes after you start processing
 him. That's more important to you as an auditor. Now, he won't even vaguely
 know what's happening. You'll know what s happening. You've gotta know what s
 happening, because all sorts of things might start to occur on which you 
 would have no check or track if you didn't know what you were doing. 
 
 You are undoing his agreement that makes him a part of the natural 
 law which became the MEST universe. And when I say natural law I m not 
 hedging, I m talking about E=mc2, talking about those funny gravity formulas
 that were put out a few hundred years ago, you re talking about, oh, 
 fulcrums, balances. You re talking about the most real of real experience in
 this universe. And those sum up out of agreement and when we start studying
 
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 this subject, we start studying natural law. And then we wind up by studying
 not natural law but the agreement which made natural law. And then it s 
 inevitable that we would start studying that thing which is capable of making
 an agreement which then becomes natural law, which then could build a whole
 universe. 
 
 Probably thirty trillion years ago or something like, E=mc', whatever
 that formula is, that probably wasn't true. Probably nobody'd agreed to that
 yet, or something of the sort. 
 
 I m.. I m sure there's an old civilization called Arslycus that 
 you'll find on an E-meter with a pc. By the way if you want to make your pc
 terribly tired and worn out, if you want to put him under good control and 
 start him down the automaticity curve, that s another one. If you want to put
 him down the automaticity curve rapidly, just suggest to him something about
 Arslycus and get him just to run a little corner of Arslycus and then 
 sympathize with him and leave him there. He's spent something like ten 
 thousand lives in Arslycus, on the average, and all he did was work. And he
 did the same job over and over. And when he died they could reach out and 
 bring him back and put him in another body and he was a trained artisan, and
 they didn t even educate him again. They grew the body very rapidly and they
 put him back on the same job. And the job would have to do with polishing the
 third row of bricks. And that would be all there was to the job - polishing
 the third row of bricks. 
 
 Arslycus got worse and worse. It got bigger and bigger. It was not 
 built on a planet, it was just built in space. And it got bigger, and bigger,
 and bigger and bigger and one of these days I m sure one of these slaves 
 suddenly got the big idea of mass. And it sounded so reasonable, it sounded so 
 logical to everybody that you had to start going slow with Arslycus because
 you would overdo the mass formula. That everybody agreed to this, the mass 
 formula became a fact and Arslycus broke to pieces and scattered around in 
 that particular part of the sky as being of too great a mass to sustain 
 itself. Before that was just building built on thin air and roadways going 
 between buildings. And it blew to pieces and all broke up and everybody fell
 through the sky. And were very happy to see it gone, but I think that that is
 about the point where you got the law of gravity coming in strongly. And 
 after that the law of gravity began to affect itself on the universe more and
 more and more and more and you started to get all kinds of suns and planets
 and the most fantastic array of things. 
 
 Now.. uh.. all this of course is is I'm just I m just kidding you 
 mostly. I don t believe that you've been in the universe seventy-six trillion
 years. I don t believe you have any past before birth. I.. I don t believe 
 that there s any reason whatsoever for this universe to be here except that
 some fellow called the devil or something that built it. Uh.. I don't believe
 any of these things. And I don t want to be agreed with about them. It 
 infuriates me to be agreed with about them So I m not asking for anybody to
 agree with me but I m not asking for anybody to disagree with me either. All
 I'm asking is that we take a look at this information. And then go through a
 series of class assigned exercises - each one of you will get a mimeographed
 piece of paper. And that has a series of exercises on it. And it just says 
 test this and test that. And it gives you a rundown actually on the complete
 subject. It is asking you to look for phenomena. And you'll complete that 
 before we re finished here. Complete that in the evening or when you re off
 for the weekend. 
 
 It is a very interesting thing but all this phenomena is 
 discoverable. So I m not asking you to agree with me; I'm actually asking you
 to find out what you agreed with. And what you have been agreeing with all 
 this time. 
 
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 In order to bring you to such a point of agreement that you're 
 actually here and and think that you should only be here and in the MEST 
 universe and so forth. And examine that track of agreement, so that then you 
 can undo that track of agreement. In other words, let's see if we can't 
 disagree with this universe just a little bit. Not necessarily to destroy the
 universe. The universe is a good thing. Uh.. I know a lot of people that 
 ought to inherit it. 
 
 Now, where you got a technique, where this technique tied in suddenly 
 with Dianetics and so on, was that Dianetics had gone right ahead and studied
 natural law as natural law. But in 1950 I made a lecture in Elizabeth and 
 this lecture in Elizabeth concerned itself with affinity, reality, and 
 agreement. And it was stated in that lecture that reality was in essence 
 agreement. And that the day when we discovered more about why reality was in 
 essence an agreement, on that day we would make a very wide step forward. 
 
 Now that fact has happened. We have found out about reality. And we 
 found out about the agreement and why it s an agreement and furthermore we 
 can prove it. Not by any esoteric means but simply as easily as: "chairs fall
 when you let go of them and they are held in the air." They fall. Everybody 
 can see that. Everybody agrees on it. And the chair is falling. The actual 
 fact is, there isn't any chair there. But we agree that there is a chair 
 there and we're all set about it. 
 
 If I remember part of that lecture it said that we naturally select 
 out of us, select out and push out of the group those who do not agree with 
 our MEST perceptions. Some man would walk in here at this moment and say, 
 "there is a large black cat standing on this rostrum" and that's all he would
 agree to. And then he would agree that he had pushed the large black cat out 
 the window. And all there was on the rostrum was myself, and I kept standing 
 here. And you perceive that. And he made a terrible ruckus about this large, 
 black cat or the Prince of Darkness that he has just found in Upper Santa 
 Monica. You would look at him and you would say he is mad. You'd think if he 
 were violent about this and continued violent and would not listen to reason 
 in other words wouldn't agree and if he hung on to his large white rabbit or 
 large black cat from there on, even you would consider that something ought 
 to be done about him quite desperately. He is obviously insane. In other 
 words, he does not share your reality. In other words, he doesn't agree with 
 you. But because he's just one guy, and you're thirty-five or thirty-seven 
 you win, he loses. 
 
 Now he can make a universe in which black cats can appear at will and 
 at random. He can have a fine universe that possibly is peopled by nothing 
 but black cats. But that s his universe and he has made the horrible effort 
 of trying to make black cats here. But he's trying to make them in the MEST 
 universe and this isn't his space. And he s not trying to make them out of 
 his energy or anything of the sort. And he hasn't had the good sense to go 
 out and, knowing the anatomy of universes, go out and make a universe full of
 black cats for his own edification. And he.. has come in here and tried to 
 tell us that this is his universe. 
 
 You get that horrible mistake. He comes in and says, "This is my 
 universe only and I am peopling it with black cats and you've gotta listen to
 me because you have now a universe full of black cats." And you look around 
 and you don t see any black cats. And you say that he s nuts. And he goes to 
 the local spin bin and that's that. 
 
 The race actually punishes non-agreement. Well, now the reason 
 Scientology gets by with this very easily is because we've been studying 
 agreement. We've been studying agreement harder than anybody else has ever 
 
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 studied agreement before. We know the anatomy of agreement. We know the laws
 on which agreement s based and how it takes place and we could go ahead and 
 set up, by a chain of agreements some of the doggonest things. And then 
 take em apart too. So, in Scientology, we're really not trying to disagree 
 with the MEST universe. That is just a handy way of saying it, because that 
 implies a flow against the MEST universe. And we're not interested in a flow
 against the MEST universe. What we re doing is simply taking the MEST 
 universe and we can make it appear or disappear at will for any individual. 
 Now that s pretty good. And I'm, you understand, I'm fully and thoroughly 
 against destroying the MEST universe. Any two or three of you get together 
 over some weekend and decide to blow all this up, you let me know. Because I
 burried a bone out on the other side of Arslycus and I want time to dig it 
 up. 
 
 Every once in a while, a pc s looking at this; he s just getting 
 processing. Nobody s explaining this to him. He s just getting processing. He
 gets an awfully funny feeling that there s some thought he doesn't quite dare
 think. And he comes in close to it and he feels the plaster creak. And then 
 he pats it back very hurriedly and runs away from there. Well, what he s 
 fooling with there is the small atom bomb of agreement. 
 
 He s having a tough time with this little point. He doesn't want the
 responsibility of undoing it, because he can't handle that much energy. 
 
 You get him up to a point where he could handle this much energy, he
 would face that thought. And really, actually, probably all that would happen
 to him is the MEST universe would momentarily disappear for him. And then he
 would have to fish around for a little while in order to get a point 
 reference on the MEST universe again in order to get into it again. Because 
 it s awfully easy to get into and out of. It's, it s nothing. 
 
 You know spacation - you know how to get into and out of the MEST 
 universe. Now, uh.. you just have to be able to handle space. If you can 
 handle space why you can get in and out of the MEST universe like mad because
 this MEST universe is a very temporary affair. It s very ramshackle. It s 
 built out of cards, it s built out of old decayed energy that was dumped in 
 here. And it exists in these large masses. And then people come in and they 
 say, "Oh, goodie, goodie! Look at all that building material, and let s build
 something out of it." Then instead of doing the rather easy thing, they want
 some alternating current. So they just look at a something or other, and they
 say, "All right some alternating current is going through that thing now." 
 Alternating current goes through it and they say, "Want to know if the 
 alternating current's going through it all right." There he is with a meter,
 "Which will be there now or put that over here. Now, we have to have a line 
 for the alternating current to go through, so we make sure it s there. We'll
 hook that up to the meter now. The meter will read, ah, the meter is reading.
 We have some alternating current. Now we will build.. we will build a small 
 street car and it will run up and down the street fitted to this alternating
 current machine. And that's what powers it." You might as well say this 
 street car will burn Coca-Colas, or something of that sort. The street car's
 still going to run. But it's all in how you set up your universe. 
 
 Now, when you've had as many people, and don t ever get the feeling
 that people aren't individuals, they are, that s the most they become. That s
 the horrible part of it, all this processing, is.. people stop being 
 identities and start being individuals. Big difference there. They.. they 
 stop being a name, and they re very comfortable under this name, but right 
 under the name, they re saying all the time, "Who the hell am I?" They don t
 have any real feeling of beingness there except this name. 
 
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 They gotta have this body like you gotta have a card to get into a 
 war plant. They walk around with this body and they shove it up to the 
 grocer. And they shove it up to the bank teller, and they draw their money 
 and get their rations, and so forth. Uh.. it s a handy identification card. 
 It s a little bit destructable for identification, a little bit heavy for an
 identification card. You can make an identification card with a couple of 
 ounces, or an ounce, or a fifth of an ounce. You don t have to have one that
 weighs 150 lbs. But, uh.. well, people go to extremes in this universe that s
 all, particularly in America they go to extremes on all these things. They..
 want big, powerful, strong identification cards. But you can t quite get 
 through your mind what you want these identification cards to do. But the 
 identification card does furnish randomity. It permits a fellow to make a 
 living so he can feed the identification card. And it permits the 
 identification card to get tired, and to get happy, and to get sad, and have
 an emotional life, which a fellow can stand alongside of and pretend that he
 is not putting the emotion there to feel back. He can make a big pretense out
 of this, see. I am very sad today. He feels sad. He s very sad. He feels sad.
 He reaches over and he says, "Now let s see well, you see I m very sad today.
 I think I will be very sad today, been lot of events happened and that should
 add up to sadness. So all right, now I got that back flow coming in. That s 
 real good now. Now I m feeling how sad I feel." Another day.. another day he
 says to himself, "I think today I'll feel cheerful, feel cheerful." He 
 somehow or another can t find the plug or something to plug in cheerfulness 
 into himself so that he will get back an emotion of cheerfulness. That s a 
 wonderful short circuit, by the way. 
 
 A fellow gets himself localized. He gets less and less able to do 
 this wider band of emotion and so he fixes on one emotion that s quite easy.
 And after that, he s an old grouch or something. But that s the one he can 
 feed in and get back. And he goes around pretending all the time that these 
 sensations exist exterior to himself. He doesn't believe that he has to feed
 a feeling there to feel a feeling. That s one thing that s dismaying to a 
 preclear. Just makes him want to quit right now if he s down the tone scale.
 
 "What! You mean all these beautiful girls around and all this 
 aesthetic feeling and.. and so on and I actually.. all this time I've been 
 putting the sensation in that direction so I could feel the sensation back 
 again. And all I got to do is turn around here with this mock up and put the
 sensation in this mock up. And feel the sensation back out of the mock up and
 then make the mock up three dimensional and it 11 dance. You make forty 
 mockups and they dance back and forth. Put blue veils on them and put them in
 a sky with clouds and you have a Mohammed in heaven. You mean I can do all 
 this? 
 
 Well, he cannot only do all that, but he can fix them up three 
 dimensionally and he can give them actual separate beingnesses and 
 personalities if he wants to. And he can go on from there and get wilder and
 wilder. He can even get up to the point of making.. making a university 
 graduate or something if he wants to, wants to get this wild. 
 
 And all he s got to do if wants to go way above this, is just take 
 one of these illusions and show it to people in this MEST universe. They will
 agree with that, because they can perceive it, if it's on the right 
 wavelength. 
 
 Now, that is what they talked about the old-time magician. He's 
 trying to do this all the time. Poor old Houdini goes on a stage. He uses 
 curtains and boxes and everything you can think of to produce little things 
 like elephants and so on out there for an audience to look at. And the 
 audience says, "Isn't wonderful the illusions which he is making there." Now
 
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 that s great. That s Houdini. He did a good job, but the guy never learned to
 handle space. 
 
 He actually did this by curtains, and occlusions of perception. Which
 is fascinating, because that s almost impossible to do. That's hard to do 
 because do you know that there wasn't a man in any audience who couldn't have
 adjusted his MEST vision so as to see through any curtain there and see the 
 elephant. The man in the audience is holding onto the fact, "A curtain is 
 solid. A curtain is solid. Not supposed to look behind the curtain. All 
 right, I won t look behind the curtain and therefore I won t see the elephant
 therefore look what Houdini s done." It's much easier than that. All Houdini
 had to do was to put the elephant in another piece of space and give him a 
 slight push. Furthermore, the elephant would have disappeared. And looky 
 there, he had to buy hay all the time and feed these elephants. He had to do
 all sorts of.. of things. And he had to work hard and spot his time. And he
 couldn't give a performance when he wanted to, he had to give a performance
 when he needed money to buy hay to feed the elephants. That's slavery, 
 
 This is quite wild. I wish I could make it a little more wild. 
 Actually, that's about as wild as it gets. You could probably move aside 
 Podunk, Iowa and.. and put a new Podunk, Iowa in there if you wanted to. 
 Motorist coming down the street would see a new Podunk, Iowa. The only 
 trouble is when this motorist looked at the new Podunk, Iowa, he would have
 to be able to look at a Podunk, Iowa with which he could agree was a Podunk,
 Iowa. Now, if he did that Podunk, Iowa would then be sitting there. He could
 go into the drugstore. He could go into the Brown Derby in Podunk, Iowa. He
 could go to MGM Studios in Podunk, Iowa. And he could go to the General 
 Electric Laboratories and main operating plant in Podunk, Iowa and everything
 would be there. It'd be in beautiful shape. He'd be able to pick up things 
 and lay them down, and so on. He d be completely satisfied and convinced that
 it was there, if he agreed to it. Well now the MEST universe has some 
 interesting tricks of making you agree: busting your shin bones, burning your
 fingers. The overall agreement has a lot of trickery in it. 
 
 If you don t agree with the MEST universe, right off the bat, and 
 remain in a state of complete unknowingness about it it says.. That's the 
 horrible thing. The one thing you must not do in this universe is find out 
 something. And you know every secret cult, every cult there's ever been, 
 every block of knowledge ever put forward in this universe has tried to have
 a big secrecy level on it. 
 
 The information dives out of sight in this universe faster than 
 anything you've ever saw. Several thousand years ago somebody made a 
 philosophical machine called the Tarot. Lord knows what that machine is up to
 or all about. And then he says, "The only way I can possibly make this last
 is to hand it over as playing cards to the Gypsies." And so today down 
 through these thousands of years, we can again and still look at the Tarot.
 It s still in existence but it s just a philosophical machine. Every one of
 the cards in the Tarot is a concept of human experience one way or the other.
 And what he did with these and what he knew with these I don t know. But it s
 a very interesting gimmick. 
 
 One of the things that survives from the Tarot is The Fool. The Fool,
 of course, is the wisest of all. The Fool who goes down the road with the 
 alligators barking at his heels, and the dogs yapping at him, blindfolded on
 his way, he knows all there is to know and does nothing about it. 
 
 And that is the Egyptian variation of the word fool. That s an 
 interesting character. He could actually be describing somebody at about 45
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 was 45 on the tone scale. And all the village dogs could tear him to pieces 
 any time they wanted to try. He could be completely blindfolded to anything 
 that was going on. Cause nothing could touch him; just nothing could touch 
 him. The village dog jumping on him, would jump through him and be a very 
 amazed dog. Probably his hackles would stand up and he would be upset. 
 Because he had passed out of agreement by knowing all agreement. Well, that s 
 in the Tarot. But look at how we have to define it. 
 
 We have to take Scientology and apply it to the Tarot and then
 explain the Tarot. And say, then, they see what they knew in the Tarot. They
 didn't know it in the Tarot. But that's the joke. 
 
 But every piece of information we have had in the past has died out 
 of sight. The one thing you mustn't do in the MEST universe is know. You must 
 agree, not know. And if you agree enough, it seems to say if you just agree 
 enough, why you'll just get along better, and better, and better, and sure 
 enough you apparently do up to a certain point. And then it's a case of agree 
 or else. And then it s the case of you will agree. 
 
 We don t care if you re agreeing - we re just going to go right on 
 punishing you. Sure you're willing to do all this, we don't care if you're 
 willing or not. We'll just go on punishing you. 
 
 And the fellow gets into a frantic state. He doesn't know what to 
 agree to, he's on his way down the cycle of agreement. And he's finally down, 
 way, way, way, way down on the tone scale on a sublevel agreement. And of 
 course MEST is in the complete chaos of having agreed to everything. And it s 
 MEST. It s no longer alive. It owns nothing. It controls nothing really. It 
 takes a theta being to come along and do something to it and with it in order 
 to reactivate it again. 
 
 So what do we have here then. We have an agreement which starts to 
 fade out. The interesting proof of this pudding is the fact that you can take 
 your preclears at random who fall into the category of five and you can spot 
 with them. You could just give them a test and find out which one of them was 
 in the firmest agreement with the MEST universe. And having found this out 
 what would you do? You d look at a tough case. That was a tough case. Now his 
 deepening of agreement is just fastening him more and more solidly to MEST. 
 And he s getting more and more mesty and he s less and less able to control 
 MEST until one fine day.. he s either mad or very dead. And try to process 
 this poor guy. 
 
 Now you'll pick up people who are below the level of agreement who 
 are saying, "Well even though you do agree to it, it s.. it'll just do 
 something to you anyway. I.. I means your luck s never in. You always lose, I 
 mean there s no winning of any kind." That fellow s even gone below that 
 level. 
 
 Now you can trace then. Here s a person higher up the scale. He s 
 occasionally able to disagree with the MEST universe. Once in a while he can 
 disagree with it like mad. He can take a car out here and - I don't know, 
 sort of pick it up on the curves at 90 degrees and turn it and it doesn t 
 turn over. It just keeps rolling in some direction or another. He's just got 
 a little tiny edge on things. He just doesn't quite care what the MEST 
 universe does to him. 
 
 Did you ever see anybody at the gambling table who cared desperately 
 and who had to win - did you ever see him win? Not in this universe. Uh.. but 
 this fellow who s sitting there and he doesn t care if he got the money; he d 
 take it out and throw it in a spittoon. And there that fellow sits with the 
 
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 dollars rolling in on him. And he's getting a higher and higher stack of win.
 But then one day he gets married or something, threatened to lose his job and
 he says, "I've always won at gambling. Now I think I'll go back and play. 
 I'll make some money." He's done. He goes back and he loses and loses and 
 loses and loses and loses. Well, he was able to take a very grand view of all
 this at first. Then later on when it became serious to him, you know, you 
 know, the way to get ahead in the world is to work hard and save your money.
 And be respectful, respectful and polite, and willing, and very agreeable to
 your superiors. This is the old formula and yet, yet, it's dismaying to go 
 around and find the.. quote Captains of Industry and find out that they re a
 whole bunch of pirates and burns. They were never respectful to anybody. It s
 just incredible - yet there they sit in command of large works and 
 industries. And these fellows they didn't save their money. They don t save
 their money. They are not cautious with their investments. They buy the 
 doggonest things. They get into the worst possible scrapes and trouble, and
 seem to keep right on going and getting right out of it again. 
 
 And you sit around and say, "That fellow s going to come to grief 
 sooner or later." And after you've said that for about forty years - why, you
 get a little apathetic about it but you just know that right will triumph in
 the end. Of course the end of that track is MEST. Well, the fellow who hopes
 this, by the way, is already pretty well on that track and he'll be MEST 
 before the other fellow will. Because the other fellow can still bend the 
 MEST universe around; he doesn't have to agree with it too much. 
 
 How does a little kid get bent into an agreement with the MEST 
 universe? Well it s a remarkable thing, he runs down the street and he's got
 a body. And the body has to run just so fast and his mother by the way is 
 busy telling him, "You are a body, take care of your body," the teacher says
 so, the cops say so, traffic laws say so. Everybody says so. The doctor gives
 an inspection. You are your body. You are your body. You are your body. 
 
 You oughta hear the wheezing sigh of electronic relief that goes out
 from a thetan you spring out of an eight year old kid. And that s wonderful.
 You know you can just take ranks of kids and you can just go down and say, 
 "all right, you re two feet behind your head. Okay, you there? Oh, that s 
 fine. Next kid, two feet behind your head. What did you say? What did you say?
 Oh, you want to go to the British Museum? Go ahead." 
 
 One fellow.. one fellow doing this, as.. he was able to get the 
 cooperation of a whole troop of scouts. Simply by telling them, "Now you want
 all the ice cream you can eat and you want to go to any of the cinemas you 
 want to go to, okay now this is how you do it." And sure enough.. it's 
 impossible to do anything with those children.. it s really terrible. I mean
 he should have thought of the future society before he did this because those
 children those children are doing terrible things. They don't study. They 
 don't study. One of them picked up a bank of an education at Oxford and 
 plugged it in. 
 
 Well, you know you're not supposed to get things that easy in this 
 universe. And another one, studying geometry. Very interesting but all he 
 would keep doing was making the shapes. He'd just make the shapes and fit 
 them together. And of course, he could answer his problems. And he could tell
 what the angles were on a truncated polygon when you did this or that with 
 it. Very easy, he d really just make one you see. He didn't keep figuring the
 way you were supposed to on it. And another one horribly enough of course 
 looks through the top of the desk at the answers on the examination paper. 
 Goes back to his seat and makes his body write them down and gets a hundred.
 
 Why, that's no good. I mean we can t have the society running like 
 
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 that. Two of these kids, by the way, are very amusing. They re brother and 
 sister. And.. oh they were in kinda bad shape. They'd lost their daddy one 
 way or the other a few years ago. And gee, they brightened right up, one of
 'em lost her glasses, and the other one lost his shyness and became really 
 well-mannered instead of just shyly well-mannered. 
 
 And.. they spent hours and hours and hours now playing a game. One 
 will mock up an illusion and put it on the mantelpiece. And the other one 
 will look at it. And then he will mock up an illusion and put that on the 
 mantelpiece. And she 11 take hers down. And then she'll mock up an illusion.
 And see they re looking at each other s illusions that way. And that's all 
 they do. They just sit there. Their body's parked over in the other side of
 the room you see. Now, it's very amusing that phenomena of this character and
 so on could exist all these years and be individually known in so many places
 without really coming up and presenting itself, and saying here we are. 
 
 The important phenomena - every once in a while you talk to a 
 preclear they tell you rather shyly, "Well, yes, I get in and out of my body
 all the time. I.. I thought there was something wrong with me." Or, "I've 
 been trying to get into re body for the last twenty years and I haven t been
 able quite to make it." Or, "Yes, that s the way I solve my problems. I step
 out of re body, think of the answer, and step back in again." And you 11 run
 into people who 11 tell you this, but they kept it kinda quiet, because this
 would have made them strange and peculiar and they didn't want to be thought
 of in that category. 
 
 Furthermore, and get how important this is then, they had no existing
 technique that would heighten the condition, make them even more separable 
 and less dependent on a body. And they had no existing techniques which could
 put them in a safe state with regard to a body. Bodies are very dangerous, 
 extremely dangerous. Juggling dynamite or being a shooter in the oil well 
 field, carrying nitroglycerin around.. in your hip pocket, that is really 
 less dangerous than packing a body around. 
 
 Uh.. a body is a remarkable thing, but it s a theta trap to end them
 all. You should be able to handle a body at a distance, handle it well, 
 easily, make it sick, make it happy, make it sad, any way you want to. You 
 should be able to do all these things. Without, at the same time having the
 liability of at any moment becoming a body. And thinking of yourself as only
 a body. That s grim. That s grim. 
 
 When a thetan gets down to the level where he thinks of himself only
 as body, he s on the minus zero scale. Because zero zero on that scale is 
 being a body. He thinks he is as body. Now he goes subzero. Some people are
 at minus eight subzero and so forth. This accounts by the way for that 
 strange variation you used to see on the tone scale all the time. 
 
 You remember you could always spot a preclear twice on a tone scale.
 You could spot him at one chronic level and then there was some other level
 that he kinda floated around on. This was sort of upsetting. What you were 
 looking at there was you were spotting the thetan on the scale and you were
 spotting the thetan plus body on the scale. Thetan plus body is a bunch of 
 social responses, stimulus response mechanisms that are built into the being
 by the society. He is a unit being. He is a thetan plus body plus two other
 things. 
 
 And he is handleable. Outside flows can hit him and make him act in 
 certain ways. He s a sort of a puppet. But he is plottable on the tone scale.
 Now, oddly enough, that mechanism falls into the bracket of the tone scale of
 its society. If the society is at 2.5, this individual, as a composite being
 
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 Homo sapiens in that society falls into a 2.5 stimulus response basis and 
 travels the same cycle as the others, uh.. his brothers in that society. 
 
 If he suddenly were born in Africa, let's say up in Morocco, where 
 the thing to do is to shoot up the surrounding area and be wild and 
 enthusiastic about certain things or something like that at 4.0 on the tone
 scale or 3.5 then his bank would be a stimulus response bank at 3.5 or 4.0.
 But let s say.. let's say that he had lived on the Lower East Side in New 
 York City and he's living down there. Well, that's what? That varies from 1.5
 down to 1.1. That s a kind of dog eat dog survival of the fittest and he 
 would have a bank. His stimulus response mechanisms built-in mechanisms would
 be 1.1 or to 1.5 somewhere in that category. He was either the gang boss as a
 kid, or he was one of the mob. And he's one or the other and he comes out as
 that character and he goes on reacting throughout the rest of his life in 
 that character. 
 
 Now in addressing his facsimiles and ridges only we can modify that
 character. We can modify it quite a bit, we can straighten it out quite a
 bit. But we never get him free till we get him out of his head. 
 
 So you re, theoretically, going to be engaged in the business of 
 driving yourself and other people out of their minds or out of their heads.
 It s not too hard to do that trick. But after you've done it, you have to 
 know quite a bit. 
 
 The.. uh.. related fields of experience to the MEST universe, the 
 codification of these related fields, so that they can be interchanged in 
 processing, for instance, what's space in terms of human experience? That s a
 good question. What s action in terms of nuclear physics? What's time? 
 Roughly, what's Time? What's time in terms of experience? Does time exist?
 And so on. How many degrees are there in a cycle of action. How many cycles
 of action are there? And how do they compare to the structure of the physical
 universe itself? These are all legitimate questions for which we now have the
 answers. 
 
 Having those answers makes this awfully easy. You can very easily 
 overestimate the esotericness of this data. It is not. But because perhaps
 because the mind has never been studied before well, I could amend that. 
 There then are some books that say the mind has been studied before, but then
 there are some books that say the riddle of the universe has long been solved
 elsewhere. And there s also books that say that Mysticism will do something
 for you. And there s all kind of books. There s books about anything. But to
 get a direct study of the human mind, which had as its goal a desire to know
 the human mind, not to obscure or merely use the human mind, but to know the
 human mind. 
 
 We are dealing now with a precise subject. Because past studies have
 not been precise, it is very very simple for a student to make a very bad 
 mistake in studying Scientology. He s trying to fit it into a frame of 
 reference. There s no frame of reference you can fit it into. It s its own
 study. 
 
 Now, you do have a point of reference to study it from. That s you,
 end you have another point of reference from which to study - that's the 
 other people you know. And just looking at them as "X"s, let's see if we can
 solve the "X." Just as though we didn't know anything and just go on.. on a..
 on a precision level, when we say "time is" in Scientology, we mean "time 
 is." We re not trying to force apart all existence a definition. We re trying
 to have a definition which is workable in Scientology and which accomplishes
 the goals of Scientology and it does accomplish those goals. And so we re not
 
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 interested whether or not this "time is" definition necessarily holds true in
 the science of Mugwumpism, because we frankly have never studied or evaluated
 for its correctness the science of Mugwumpism. 
 
 But we have studied the human mind and we can theta clear people 
 rather fast. So let's just take it into this frame of reference only, and 
 study it as a precision object. And then look into you as a reference point
 and to the people around you as a reference point, and to the social 
 structure that you see as a reference point. Or at rocks, or trees, or suns,
 and see if that data applies to what you observe with your own eyes. That 
 person who is the best observer will get the most out of these lectures. 
 We re not asking anybody to observe what has been observed. We re just asking
 people, "This is the definition. Now, look and see if you can observe this.
 If you can t observe this, perhaps it isn't there, but if you can observe it,
 then it's there." 
 
 Now, so, we re asking for observation. Now to observe is.. is quite a
 trick. It s a sort of a clean slate principle. 
 
 You don't observe and say, "Let's see how does this.. how does this 
 compare? Let's see.." he says, "Space is.." and so on. "Now how does this 
 compare with ancient uh.. with ancient, ancient.. uh.. jud.. uh.. ism where
 the space was taken as the square root of the cube. But it s on beyond the 
 other side and that is the yam and the candied yamism. Uh.. now how.. how 
 does candied yamism.. uh.. fit in and does that evaluate that?" Now, it just
 doesn't even vaguely, because you re taking a precision, what has been formed
 to be by definition a precision. All these things are just by definition a 
 precision and you're applying it over here to an imprecise thing to wonder if
 it's a precision. 
 
 There s one way you can do this. You can do this and you can say, 
 "Here is this precision and then over here is this imprecise thing, how much
 more precise thing do we have in Scientology than we have over here?" Now 
 that's a good comparison and a good comparative level but that doesn't either
 make valid Scientology or invalid candied yamism. The only thing that makes
 valid or invalid on the.. if I tell you, "There is a chair. you are observing
 a chair." Now you could go on and think about all the chairs you have ever 
 observed, but that is not the question. The question is, "There's the chair
 and do you observe the chair there?" Now that's all. 
 
 So as a net result it s actually too simple to observe and it escapes
 many people. It.. it goes clear beyond them to observe, just look at 
 something. And you'll say, "There s a chair there. Now can you feel that 
 chair?" Umm, all right, you can feel the chair, you can see the chair, and 
 you can feel the weight of the chair and you can also feel the jolt when 
 chair s set back on the platform. That's observation by perception direct. 
 
 It requires nothing, no knowledge of basic or elementary physics of 
 the trial and error of balances and red side of the ledger of chairs. Nothing
 to do with that at all. It's just whether or not you can experience the 
 chair. 
 
 So therefore a great deal of this data may appear to you to be 
 incomprehensible. If it appears to be incomprehensible for a moment, please do
 me this favor: and that's.. ask yourself, "Have I got this mixed up in some
 body of knowledge somewhere. Have I taken it over and planted it someplace 
 else. Am I trying to look at it through the eyes of..?" 
 
 Now, I'm not asking you to look at this subject through my eyes. 
 There are two subjects here that I'm going to be talking to you about, just
 
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 two, and one is "Scientology, a precise science of universes and beings 
 therein or beings who make universes." Now, that's one subject. And then 
 there's "Hubbard s opinion of this subject." And boy, I got some wild 
 opinions. You oughta hear them sometime. But that s a different thing.. 
 that's a different thing.. and you can tell very easily when I swing over 
 into my opinion, when I start talking about some field of healing or when I 
 start to talk about this or that, it s obviously a big slant and merely is my 
 selection of randomity. Take it as amusing or evaluate by it or throw it away 
 or anything. It doesn't have anything really to do with Scientology. But the 
 subject itself is actually a lot cleaner than a wolf's tooth. I've examined a 
 lot of wolve's teeth and I've found out that they're not too clean. And this 
 subject is very clean though. 
 
 It has been under development for a long time and has actually been a 
 progressive development and examination of the agreements which came to bring 
 about the MEST universe, and then became the science of how agreements are 
 made, and then became what are the beings who make these agreements. And how 
 can you start all this, from these basics. That's where we are now. 
 
 Roy, if you don t think you can't do something with that, you oughta 
 quit. Because you can do terrible things with this.. you can do terrible 
 things with this - just horrible - too grim for words. The only thing that's 
 a saving grace is a person comes way up the tone scale, his ethic level also 
 comes way up. And is that fortunate! I have a couple of British auditors, and 
 so forth, they.. they said to me, they said, I said, "Well now speaking of 
 sight in depth, it is one of the easier things to do, to penetrate clothing." 
 And two of them looked at me rather astonished. And they said, "You think we 
 hadn't found that out?" 
 
 You know I was shocked, it hurt my morals right there, to think of
 those boys, and a girl there too sitting out in the park with their bodies
 home someplace, watching the pedestrians go by with sight in depth. That's
 not nice. We must really remember to be moral above all other things. 
 
 But you can do terrible, terrible things with this subject. You can 
 also do very, very good things with this subject. And you're going to find 
 your preclears attempting some of the doggonest things with this subject. 
 Right away you spring sone preclear out of his body, he takes one look at the 
 room, and he says.. he s actually about as weak as.. as a kitten that's born 
 dead. But he thinks of himself in comparison with what he's been, you see, he 
 thinks of himself as a "huge being." 
 
 Oh boy, is he strong, is he powerful, and he's going to go right over 
 and knock out Russia. Yes sir! This afternoon he's not going to tell you 
 about it. He s going to go home. And he's found out he can do this and he's 
 all set, and he's very hepped on it. And he goes home and he puts the body 
 down on the couch. And he goes over and he tries to find the Kremlin and he 
 finally finds the Kremlin. And he's going to do this and that. And so what he 
 tries to find Joe and something or other happens, that makes him upset. 
 
 Location, space and time, he's doing too many things at once. He ran 
 into a pack of counter emotion.. 
 
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