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FZ BIBLE 7/10 HCL TAPES PART 2 (1952)

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These are the second 10 lectures in the HUBBARD COLLEGE
LECTURES (HCL) Series of early 1952.  This is based
both on the transcripts in R&D volume 10 and an old
reel-to-reel set of the tapes.

The lectures cover Fac One and some discussion of
Entites.

We posted the first part of this lecture series last December
as FZ BIBLE 1/10 HCL TAPES of 1952, FIRST SECTION.

The Time Track of Theta tapes that we posted earlier last year 
are also from this lecture series.  They fit right after the 
tapes in this current set of postings.

We will do the final third of the HCL lectures later this
year including the battle of the universes tape which has
been labled confidential and is not in the R&D volumes.
Note that this lecture series (mainly the final third) is 
the research line for NOTS.

Coming Soon: The 5th ACC (The "Universes" cassettes).


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CONTENTS:

1.  HCL-7   6 MAR 52 EFFORT AND COUNTER-EFFORT
2.  HCL-8   6 MAR 52 ATTACK ON THE PRECLEAR
3.  HCL-9   7 MAR 52 FACSIMILES: HOW TO HANDLE RECORDINGS
4.  HCL-10  7 MAR 52 INDOCTRINATION OF THE PRECLEAR
5.  HCL-11  8 MAR 52 RESOLUTION OF EFFORT_AND COUNTER-EBFORT: OVERT ACTS
6.  HCL-12  8 MAR 52 INDOCTRINATION IN THE USE OF THE EMETER
7.  HCL-13  9 MAR 52 THOUGHT, EMOTION, & EFFORT AND COUNTER-EFFORT
8.  HCL-14  9 MAR 52 DEMO: EFFORT, COUNTER-EFFORT, STRAIGHTWIRE
9.  HCL-15 10 MAR 52 TRAINING AUDITORS: THE ANATOMY OF FAC ONE
10. HCL-17 10 MAR 52 RUNNING EFFORT AND COUNTER-EFFORT

Note that the first set of 10 HCL lectures ended with
HCL-6A of 5 MAR 52.

Note that HCL-12 consists of HCL-12 and HCL-12A on the reels.

Note that HCL-16 was not part of the reels nor is it in the
R&D volumes.  If anyone has a copy, please post it.

Note that HCL-18 was combined with HCL-27 in the R&D volumes
and we will post it in part 3 of this series.  The Time Track
of Theta tapes are HCL-19 and 20.

In cases where the reels include material that is not in
the R&D volumes, the text is marked with ">".


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STATEMENT OF PURPOSE 

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Religion by spreading the Scientology Tech across the internet.

The Cof$ abusively suppresses the practice and use of
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Moslems, Mormons, and even non-Hassidic Jews would be considered
to be squirrels of the Jewish Religion.

The writings of LRH form our Old Testament just as the writings
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We might not be good and obedient Scientologists according
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We ask for the same rights, namely to practice our religion
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HCL-13 THOUGHT, EMOTION, & EFFORT AND COUNTER-EFFORT

(THOUGHT, EMOTION, & EFFORT AND THE OVERT ACT in R&D 10)

5203C09A

A lecture given on 9 March 1952


The actual running of an incident is accomplished by using
a relatively few factors of what you know. And these
factors are thought, emotion and effort. And, of course,
if there's thought, emotion and effort, there must of
necessity be counter-thought, counter-emotion and
counter-effort.

Now, we know about counter-effort. Counter-effort's very
simple. One individual hits another; the individual who is
doing the striking is putting out the effort, the
individual who is receiving it receives that blow as a
counter-effort.

Counter-emotion is a little less tangible, but nonetheless
real. You have many times walked into a room where you knew
people had been talking about you, where you knew something
was not well, where a quarrel had been occurring. You know
the emotion or atmosphere of a sickroom, for instance, or
of a sick person. You receive these things as
counter-emotion.

Counter-emotion is relatii·ely indefinite. Actually
counter-emotion to some degree contains perceptics - 
counter-perceptics. You pick up somebody getting
counter-emotion, and the first thing you know, he's also
picking up the perceptions of things.

If you ask anyone who  is rather apathetic who  around him
was angry, and then try to persuade him to feel that anger
as a counter-emotion, this person will tell you immediately
the anger doesn't exist - the counter-anger does not exist.
They're doing a terrific dive. But if you persuade them a
little bit, they'll be able to find out the counter-emotion
of somebody who is enduring - that's close to their tone
band. And if you persuade them to do this, then they can
find out what the feeling is of counter-emotion of fear.
They can find incidents in their lives when people have
been afraid, and they feel that fear themselves It is the
fear of the other person against them, like a wave. And
then you can build them up to the anger. And they will find
that the anger, as a counter-emotion, sort of hangs against
them rather heavily like a dark cloud.

In such a wise, people who are very happy emanate, and
people around them feel this emanation. That's
counter-emdtion in action.

Now, counter-emotion is, of course, accompanied by a
counter-emotional curve. You can feel the emotional curve of
another person.

If you've ever walked up to anyone and told him some bad
news, you have felt his emotion drop. A pc should be aware
of this fact, and the auditor particularly should know it,
so that this drop can be picked up from other people by the
preclear.

Counter-thought is very nebulous, but is nevertheless
there. If you just start to pick up the concepts of those
around you - not their words, not expressed thoughts, not
pictures or anything - you go back through your life and
pick up the concepts of others around you, you'll find
where they were in conflict with your concepts And there
you will find a cross-up which tends to hang these
facsimiles up and make them less usable to you.

For instance, you've come in and you've said - expressed,
more or less, the fact that you would like to do something,
and somebody else has said to you that you shouldn't do
this. Well now, the perceptics would be one thing; they're
very physical universe, and as a matter of fact belong in
the counter-effort category because they are nothing more
nor less than physical-universe forces. They are efforts,
perceptions are. But because they have an emotional
connotation, they go up a little bit into the
counter-emotion band.

But here are your efforts. Sound, for instance, is a wave.
Sight is a sight wave. Sound travels through air. If there
were no air, there'd be no sound. Light can travel through
a vacuum, but is nevertheless - is a wave action; it's a
particle flow.

And you take thermal: thermal is a vibration of
material - air, so on. If one material is vibrating fast, we
say it's hot, and if another one is vibrating slowly - more
slowly, we say it's cold. If the air around you is
vibrating at a certain - molecules are flying or flowing at
a certain speed, you say that it is warm, and if they're
flying around you much more slowly, you say that it's cold,

Actually, the reason a gas expands a balloon is because its
molecules are traveling fast - faster than the air around
it - and therefore expanding the bag more. All you have to
do, actually, is merely heat up air and put it in a
balloon - as long as the air is hot, that balloon will rise.

In other words, motion decreases the mass and increases the
thermal agitation and so on.

Actually, the reason you get warm and the reason you feel
thermal, inside and outside, is a faster rate of strike on
the part of molecules of gases and solids - a faster rate of 
strike, that's all. They hit you. Molecules in this air are 
hitting you at a terrific rate right now and it keeps you warm. 
That's aliveness. It isn't that anything else happens in the
molecules at all, They don't expand or contract
particularly, they just travel faster. Well, all that is
something for a physicist, but I'm just demonstrating to
you that all these categories of perceptions are
counter-efforts. Now, a noise: a noise can hit you so
violently that it is painful - physically painful. If you
have ever been in a New York subway, you know why people in
New York are all crazy. I don't say they're all crazy,
there are some people who aren't ... (laughter)
But - physically painful noise. Actually, a person's
eardrums hurt; actually he can feel the noise against his
skin. And there's no reason why he shouldn't, because he's
being hit with a wave action. Were you ever down at the
beach and walked into the water and had some big, towering
wave come along and hit you in the face, knock you appetite
over tin cup and wash you up on the sand? Well, it's
exactly really, the same kind of a wave that sound has. It
transfers itself from particle to particle in the air and
hits you with the transferred force.

For instance, if you take up and line up five billiard
balls, put them close together, and you hit the first
billiard ball, the fifth billiard ball will fly off. Well
now, if those were five air molecules, motion hits number
one and the others vibrate, transmit the motion and number
five hits you. So it's an actual physical blow. Sound is a
blow.

And people who have their sonic off, who are occluded, have
simply been hit by too much sound. People who have their
visio off have been hit by too much light. They've gotten
to a point where they're afraid to look, that's all. Now,
it didn't matter whether that was in one incident or in a
dozen incidents, or whether or not they're confused about
what is sound and what is light and what is actual physical
blows - they can be confused about these things - the point
is, their recalls go off.

Now, one can recall visually, recall in sound, recall in 
thermal and so on.

If a person has been roasted a few times too many, you'll
find him reluctant to pick up thermal out of facsimiles - 
understandably. The Spanish have a proverb: they say, "Un
gate escaldado de agua fria huye" - a scalded cat from cold
water flees. And most preclears have been scalded cats And
you ask them to remember a sunny day and they refuse to
remember the sunny day for the good reason that they had a
day that was red-, white-hot. And they're afraid they'll
remember this other day, so they flee from the actually cool 
water of a bright spring day. So you ask them, "Recall a pleasure
moment," They're afraid to.

There's a whole technique can be built around this. Merely
by coaxing the individual to feel the perceptics lightly,
to feel pleasant perceptics, perceptics that haven't hurt
him, you will gradually get him up to the point where he'll
not only feel perceptics but he will feel efforts. And if
you wanted to work on this hard, for a long period of time,
you could artificially turn on somebody's perceptions.

I used to do this early in this research. That was the only
way I used to turn on perceptions. I would just make people
first get their big toe wet, and then get their foot wet
and then get it up to the knee and then get it up to the
hips and then all of a sudden throw them in. And they would
receive full perception on some engram or other and they
would run it. They'd come out at the other end with a
heightened feeling of confidence. They would say, "Gee, I
can feel them." They would say, "I actually can feel a
vibration without dying."

This is encouragement of differentiation, Encouragement of
differentiation as a technique is something which can be
played into many lines of processing.

For instance, you take straight memory. Somebody comes up
to you and he says - this is in the field of thought - he
says to you, "Oh, I just can't remember anything. I can't
remember people." You say to him, "What's my name?" And he
says, "Well, George."

"Well," you say, "there's one person. Now, let's see if we
can't remember another one."

The reason why he can't remember people is there are some
people there that he doesn't dare remember. And if you
persuade him to remember a few people, all of a sudden he
becomes differentiative. The only basic difference between
aberration and sanity is the difference between
identification and differentiation. If a person identifies
everything with everything, of course he's quite mad. And
if a person differentiates rather easily, he can have
terrific experiences and yet not go mad.

The difference between identification and differentiation
is simply a difference of time. Everything filed nicely
according to time makes good differentiation. Everything
filed on one moment or everything with one moment assigned
to it, such as "Grandpa is dead. Grandpa is a man. All men
are liable to die. I daren't make friends with a man
because he's liable to die because Grandpa is dead" - this
is the sort of thing that'll drive people off from human
relationship.


This identification runs on an equation. It says, "A equals
A equals A equals A: everything is everything is everything
is everything." It does not differentiate. This
differentiation can go into language, can go into
perception. You can get people who cannot tell the
difference between sight and sound. And actually, there
are veterans around in hospitals who have been shot up in
the war to such an extent that they hear sight and see
sound.

So these things can not only be crossed up, but they can be
completely identified. A person who has identified
everything with everything, of course, is completely
insane.

What has a dead man done? Actually he's identified
everything with everything. How wrong can you get? Dead.
How identified can you get? Dead. Works the same way,
That's not too hard to assimilate when you realize that the
complete MEST form of a being would be a dead body - no mind
attached to it at all, everything physical force.

And actually, the reason identification between everything
takes place is wholly in the field of physical force.
There's too much force; it packs things up too tightly.
There's too much motion packed too tightly. That means that
nothing can be differentiated in terms of time. You're all
set People could be said to be aberrated in direct ratio to
how much they weigh. That's right - because gravity itself
is a physical force. It's a very simple problem.

Now, we take - in the field of emotion, the same thing
obtains. You ask your preclear to feel a counter-emotion or
to feel an emotion on his own part, and he's unwilling to
feel this emotion himself, he's unwilling to feel the
counter-emotion, so on.

Pick some light, easy emotion. If he's in apathy, you'll
find he's most likely to feel himself the emotion of apathy
and he is most likely to feel the counter-emotion of either 
apathy or grief - something close to his own Tone Scale.

If he is in anger, if he's a 1,5, if he's chunky, beefy,
holds on to everything and won't let go of anything, why,
you can be fairly sure that this individual will not feel
much of anything but anger.

Anger, by the way, is simply the process of trying to hold
everything still. TEiat's all anger is in its essence. If
you can make a man hold something still long enough and
struggle to hold it still long enough, he'll get angry. You
could make, some sort of a little box that he was supposed
hold the lid down on. And you could make this box so that
the lid kept popping up and it took a lot of physical force
to hold it down. And then you made it so forceful that he
couldn't quite overcome it, and you just make him hold that
box shut.

Now, he'll hold that box shut just about so long and then
he'll get angry. It's mechanical, very mechanical. If he
succeeds in holding the box shut but has to keep an eye on
it to keep it shut, he'll merely feel resentment.

But if he can't hold the box shut at all and it plays
numerous random tricks on him - for instance, not only the
top comes up, but the sides start to fall out and the
bottom falls off and the table sort of goes to pieces and
then it reassembles itself a few times - he will feel fear.
He can't quite overcome it, but he's got to keep an eye on
it and so on.

And if the box just flies all to pieces, he'll feel grief.
He's lost it. It's gone - supposing it disintegrated.

And if every time that box came apart, he felt the tremor
all the way through him, and he couldn't resist feeling
this tremor all the way through him, and even though he
walked across the room and found the door locked, he could
still feel this box going to pieces, and if the box
insisted on going to pieces and then the floor started
going to pieces and then the columns in the ceiling started
going to pieces - believe me, he'd go right down the Tone
Scale and he'd hit apathy. He'd finally give up. He'd also
say, "I'm not here." He would negate against himself and so
on.

Each one of these emotions has its own attitude. But you
enter it lightly. Don't ask somebody who is in apathy to
feel the counter-emotion of happiness. Not likely to - too
high on the band.

All right. As far as thought is concerned, when you audit
somebody just on concepts alone (you can audit them on
concepts all by themselves; that is, thoughts or
computations) you will find out that the only time thought
has become aberrative is when it has been contradicted,
that's all. A person has data that tells him he's 50
percent right and data that tells him he's 50 percent
wrong, and the data on the right side and the data on the
wrong side will add up to a datum, "maybe." And it's only
euhen this is hung up.

A person can live with the fact that he's really wrong and
he knows he's wrong. He could actually live with it, but he
will seldom try. He tries to figure it out so that he's
right. That's why you get these vast arguments.

You ask any little kid, "Why did you do that?" And he's
obviously done it and he knew he did it. He put - picked the
jam pot off and he threw it on the floor. And there it is
on the floor. And you ask him, "Why did you throw the jam
pot on the floor? Look-a-there, they've got jam all over the 
floor and it's all full of broken glass and so forth, and now 
you can't have any jam." And he said, "I didn't do it. It fell 
off the table." But yOu said, "But I - I saw you!" "But it 
fell right off the table." "But I saw you throw it on the floor!"
"Yeah, but that was the dog, Well, the dog came in the door
and so forth and he brushed against me and that's why it
fell off. It was the dog's fault, it isn't my fault. I
couldn't possibly be wrong." How wrong can you get? Dead.
And so he avoids dying in this fashion.

Cross-computation winding up in a maybe is all that is
wrong in the field of thought, You can think anything
without getting upset so long as it doesn't wind up with a
maybe.

Now, you can take a preclear and you can just start what we
call Straightwire and you can start asking him questions:
"When did you fail to make a decision?" "When were you
unable to decide something in the past?" "What aren't you
able to decide in the present?" and "What aren't you able
to figure out about the future or decide about the future?"
And you'll find out each time that he has overweighting
data which prevents him from throwing it away. The problems
are not serious. What happens to be serious is the fact
that he's got a maybe.

A psychotic is only trying to solve a maybe in the past, a
neurotic is trying to solve a maybe in the present and
somebody who is merely slightly worried, but carrying on,
is trying to solve something about the future. A person who
thinks only about the past is, really psychotic. A person
who thinks only about the present and cannot think into the
future is neurotic. A person who thinks about the future
and plans for the future and acts to make the future work
out is sane. This is a very simple classification. Now, you
can handle preclears just on this classification.

You can handle thought and counter-thought, Ask them for a
time when they made up their mind to do something and
somebody had - made them change their mind. Ask them when
they decided to do something and found out it was
impossible to do it. And you'll eventually find things
which they are still trying to resolve back in the
past - they're still trying to figure out. Something they've
forgotten all about that's completely covered up will lie
there underneath one of these computations - one of these
curtains, so to speak.

Here the fellow - somebody walks in and asks him if he wants
to buy stock in a company which builds tables - very good
stock, very affluent company, a very good buy; nothing
wrong with this at all, And he'll say, "No!" and he'll become 
very angry. Why is he becoming very angry? Somebody just added 
a new maybe about tables.

When he was ten years of age he had a manual training
teacher, and every time he started to build this table the
manual training teacher came around and told him to do it
some other way. And he, at first, believed that he could
build a table, but after a while he wondered whether or not
he could build a table, and then he decided he couldn't
build a table, but he knew he could build a table, but he
didn't want to build a table, but he wanted to build a
table ...

In other words, if he'd simply quit and said, "All right, I
can't build a table" and made up his mind like that, he
wouldn't get later reactions. But as it is, he's got "maybe
I could, maybe I couldn't." He's still back there - ten
years old, trying to build a table.

He's got this data about tables. You walk in and you talk
to him about buying stock in a company that has to do with
tables, and he's going to get mad. Why is he going to get
mad? He's got a big maybe. And tables all up the line,
including the dinner table every night, is sitting on top
of this maybe, until it is an enormous globe of
miscomputations. If you were to solve this for him, he
would get much better very swiftly.

Take the business of death. Here was a big maybe. "Do I
live after death? Don't I live after death? All right, they
tell me to have faith. What would happen if I didn't have
faith? Well, if I have faith, then I will live after death;
but if I don't have faith, then I can't live after death.
Well now, what do I have to do? 1 have to be good in order
to live after death, I am told, and live comfortably after
death. But if I am not good, I won't. What is good? Well,
good is following out this particular code. But I can't
follow out that code."

The second that a fellow gets on this maybe, he'll float
with this maybe for just years and years and years. And he
actually begins to believe that he's worrying continually
about death, whereas the maybe may be somewhere else or on
something else. He worries and he worries and he worries
and he worries about death, about death, about death, about
death.

And one of the biggest releases you can get on an
individual is to prove to him, in himself, subjectively and
on a meter, that he just goes on and on and on and on and
on. Not because it's particularly beneticial to him for
any other reason that - it takes him off of a big maybe. Now
he knows He knows he lives.

For anybody who gets this subjectively, you take him down
to a funeral and he's liable to stand there very bored - very
puzzled, as a matter of fact.

First time this ever hit me I saw a funeral going up the 
road and here was a great big herse and flowers all over
the place and people in the cars and so on and I said to
myself "Boy what a spot for a Dianetic auditor. He could go 
out there to the cemetery and run out all these grief charges 
and he could probably do a lot of good, do a lot of good." 
And then all of a sudden I realized this corpse is probably - 
Oh, was all duded up" probably and in a casket and so on and 
they were taking it out and burying it in a nice - so on, and 
all these people crying and so on. Well, what a bunch of 
materialistic unbelievers they were! And that was the first 
thought that struck me. And then the next thought that struck 
me - what a big joke on them: this fellow was probably right 
now going through the sperm-ovum sequence!

Well anyway, it seemed to me ... And all of a sudden, boom!
And nobody's been able to worry me about dying since.
Nobody. I wasn't particularly worried about it before, but
I used to - used to once in a while think that - failure as
being very tough. Failure was something rough; failure was
something horrible,

Failure is merely the gradient scale of death. If a person
fails too many times, he's going to die, that's
certain - because this society will deny him food, clothing
and shelter. If he fails too many times, he will die. It's
all right to cut your finger, but don't cut your throat,
Cutting the finger is a little bit of dying. If you cut
your finger too hard and too solidly, you could kill
yourself. In other words, this is the way people look at
this. That's their gradient scale of failure, the gradient
scale of defeat. And they regard life seriously just to the
degree that they regard death seriously and they regard
failure and defeat seriously just to the degree that they
will regard the whole computation of survival.

How serious is it that you live? Well, if you're going to
die, it becomes very serious that you live - becomes serious
business. And a person, actually, is situated on the Tone
Scale to the degree that they are serious about living.
They are also effective in inverse ratio to their
seriousness. You can show me any person who is taking
it very, very, very seriously and I'll show you a long
chain of failures. A person gets most serious about living
when he is dying.

Now, an index of sanity is not only a future index but a
"serious" index - the serious button.

Now, on an overt act problem - and here we get back into
thought, the handling of thought - the people who have tried
to convince you of this and that have to some degree
aberrated you, if the convictions were cross-grained to what 
your convictions were. But, you see, because of prior overt 
acts, it was what you did to others that was much more 
aberrative.

So, in thought and counter-thought, let's not worry so much
about what was countered to you or countered to the
preclear, as what the preclear countered to others.

Now, we have a whole Chart of Attitudes. This is an - a
chart of concepts, and if you take this Chart of Attitudes
and run the preclear in this one life on those attitudes,
finding every time when he tried to foist off this attitude
on somebody else against their wishes, or just tried to
foist this attitude off on somebody else,  we will find an
aberration stronger than what was done to the preclear,

It was when he countered his thoughts. And particularly
when he countered the thought of another and then failed to
counter the thought of another, he got himself into a bad
state, because then he had to be hung with the
thought/counter-thought. He tried to palm this thought off
on somebody else - this attitude off on somebody else:
"You've got to obey me!" And he keeps trying to tell people
this and trying to tell people this, "You've got to obey
me, you've got to obey me." And he will eventually get into
the serious state where he is obeying himself implicitly.
Oh, that can be grim. One takes one's postulates, one's
conclusions, one's predictions terrifically seriously. One
starts driving oneself with an iron rod and a brass-knobbed
whip. Yeah, because he's tried to make others obey him.
He's tried to make others obey. "They've got to obey.
They've got to obey." And eventually he handles himself
Like he handles others and that's what you're up to there
on the Chart of Attitudes. That is a little equation
there - you want to call it an equation or a formula - of: an
individual tends to handle himself as others have handled
him; an individual tends to handle himself as he has tried
to handle others.

You want to know what a person thinks of himself, why, look
at what he thinks of others. And that's what he'll think of
himself, too, because, after all, he's just one of the
eight dynamics.

So, you take this Chart of Attitudes ...  And by the way,
this is in advance of the Handbook of Preclears, and the
Handbook of Preclears is made valuable to you to this
additional degree: you as an auditor can take the chart all
by itself and, with a technique known as Lock Scanning,
make your preclear go over - for each line on that chart,
including the emotion column - the time when he tried to
foist off this attitude on others. In other words, you've
got his thought concept as he tries to direct them to
others - to children, to women, to men, to the family, 
to groups, or to all mankind, or to animals, or to the 
MEST universe, or into the spiritual realm, or actually
against God.

And you take that as a chart of overt attitudes. And you
could call it that: a chart of overt attitudes. And you
just run the preclear - every time he's had this attitude
toward those around him. And you'll find out the case will
swamp up very swiftly - uery swiftly, because that is the
hottest Straightwire there is on the bank. it's lying right
on top of the chain of overt acts. Every one of those
attitudes lies on the top of overt acts.

Now, I give you this as an optimum Straightwire - an optimum
Straightwire. And let me not only recommend it to you, but
ask you to make this your main Straightwire, because the
person will start coming off of his maybes. And you let him
come off of his maybes.

He gives this attitude, he gives this attitude, he gives
this attitude, and all of a sudden he'll tell you a
computation. You don't even have to ask him for a
computation. He'll say, "Well, all my life I have been
worried about ..." And then he'll tell you what he's been
worried about, and you go back, and then is when you chime
in. You say, "Well, did you ever feel indecisive about
this?" and he'll say, "Yes." Actually, if you could get the
indecision or what was made indecisive by any incident or
engram, that incident or engram would blow, because the
only reason any incident stays in present time is because
it has a maybe on it. It has not been decided.

Computation is keeping facsimiles in present time to think
with them. So all maybes -  undecides - are still being
thought with. Therefore, your preclear can't be sane. 

[At this point there is a gap in the original recording.] 

Now, you are using, then, the Chart of Attitudes as contained in
the Handbook for Preclears, as counter-thought, The
preclear is being counter-thought to somebody else's
thoughts to some degree. In other words, he is interfering
with their self-determinism, But more about that in a
moment.

You've got the preclear, then, as counter-thought to other
people's thoughts. And you will find out that this
influenced his aberration more than when he was thought to
somebody else's counter-thought. Now, you understand that?

When his own thoughts and self-determinism were
interrupted, the only reason he could take this was because
he had been counter-thought to somebody else's thoughts. In
other words, you've got a play both ways! And you actually
can take the Chart of Attitudes and run it as the preclear's
thoughts being interrupted by counter-thoughts.

In other words, you take the preclear as the thought and
you run him up and down throughout his life, picking up the
times when Mama, Papa, Grandma, the family, schoolteachers
and others countered his thoughts and ambitions. He can be
made to feel very sorry for himself when you do this, but
you'll blow quite a bit of locks and do quite a bit of
things.

Now, you turn around and you pose him as counter-thought to
other people's tkoughts. You can work it both ways~ What I'm
trying to show you is there's thought and counter-thought.
The preclear, however, interrupts his own self-determinism
faster by countering the thoughts of others. Now, we'd run
this into emotion. The preclear, in countering the emotions
of others, shuts himself down much more thoroughly than
when his own emotions are countered.

Let's say - let's take all the times he came romping into
the house and said, "Here's something very pretty and I'm
very happy," and somebody said to him, "Nyaevevr. Go away.
Go along and play" - something of that sort. "Don't bother
Mama now. Mama's busy." These are really not as important
as the times when somebody romped up to him saying, "I'm
happy and here is something beautiful," and he said
"Errrarreu." Because you see what he's done? He's done a
very detestable thing. He has made himself like a person he
detested. The second he counters a thought, the second he
counters an emotion, he has likened himself to the person
who did it to him. And here is where you have valence
difficulties.

If a person does this enough to somebody else, he will go
into their valence. If he counters their thought and
emotion enough, he will go over into their valence. It's a
very simple mechanism. He will become them rather than stay
himself.

And the reason he won't stay himself is because he's
likened himself to too many detestable people and he can't
be himself anymore because he says, "Myself is like too
many people I dislike. And therefore I will be like
somebody I have hurt, and this will do a life continuum for
them and will repay with repentance, sackcloth and ashes,
for all the horrible things I have done."

The second that he uses the mechanism which has been used
on him, he therefore pronounces judgment upon himself that
he is like the person who used it on him.

If a man acts enough like his father, he will eventually
not only do a life continuum on his father but start doing
life continuums on those to whom he is acting like his
father. If he didn't like his father, he then becomes
detestable to himself. That's very simple.

It's the same way with counter-effort and effort. You take
the times that an individual has acted as counter-effort - 
these times are much more aberrative than the times when
the individual was acted upon by counter-effort.

In other words, here is a person making an effort to
survive and your individual comes along - your preclear has
come along and said, "Bow! Don't survive!" Now, here again
you get the life-continuum mechanism and you get it because
the preclear dramatizes or uses the counter-efforts which
were used against him. You get this mechanism - this is a
very important mechanism. He has used the counter-efforts
which were used against him, against somebody else or
against another dynamic.

Naturally when your preclear was hit in the jaw, he did not
like the person who hit him in the jaw. And yet he has
received a motion, a counter-effort of a hit in the jaw.
Now, to be fully self-determined, he feels he ought to be
able to hit somebody in the jaw. So he goes and he hits
somebody in the jaw. The second he does this, he recognizes
that he has done an act which was done to him by a person
he doesn't like. So the moment he does this, he likens
himself, then, to the person who hit him first that he
doesn't like. So therefore, he can't go on being himself.
So he'll switch over to some degree into the valence of the
person he's just hit, and he'll wear the somatic himself as
a life continuum or as an effort to arrest that somatic and
keep himself from being like somebody he doesn't like.

This is not very complicated. It's something that you
should sort of lay down on a piece of paper and look at it
until you see it very thoroughly, because it's quite
important.

Now, in the field of emotion ... This covers overt acts,
it covers life continuum, it covers all of the buttons that
you find in the handbook - all of them - explains it very
well. And if you look over any preclear, you can ask him
this question and get the central computation or the
central snarl in his memory bank or his thought - his
computer. You ask him what he would defend above all things.
Just ask him that, and he will say - think for a moment and
he would say "my family" or he will say "oh, babies" or he
will say "cats" or he will say "governments" or "God" or
something of the sort.

Well, you've got him in a bear trap right that moment, Why?
Why would he defend this above all other things? He has to
defend this or become the thing that attacks it! Why does
he have to do this? He has to defend these things because
he has offended against them and is doing a life continuum
for them. Very simple. He has - is doing a life continuum
for cats or babies or something of the sort, and at one
time or another he injured the entity he is defending. He
has done an overt act against this thing.

You'll get some preclear, and you'll find this preclear
says, "Oh, these horrible brutal men - these brutal men that
torture these poor little cats!" And you just stick your
tongue a little bit in your cheek and say, "All right, now
let's go back down the time track and let's find the
time - let's find a time, now, when you killed a cat."

"Oh! I'd never do such a thing! Poor little pussycats I - I
love pussycats and they're much better than men," and so
on. "I'd ne~er do such a thing; I just never would."

So, the poor little pussycat we find at the age of four,
being most wonderfully strangled by our pussycat defender.

One case, for instance, had dressed a kitty up in baby
clothes and had put it innocently in a box and had come
back and the cat was dead, having strangled to death on the
baby clothes. And this person ever afterwards starts to
defend cats, but then sees somebody punishing a
cat - namely, some men punishing a cat one way or the other
or doing something to a cat - so she hates the men. She has
to hate the men and defend the cat or she becomes the men
because she killed a pussycat too, you see. This is very
simple. Very simple. You can draw that. You can draw that
with ease. And, as a matter of fact, I had better draw it
for you. Now, here, [marking on blackboard] here we have a
time track. We will just take one life. We'll take a very,
very microscopic view of a person's existence and take one
life.

And, by the way, has anybody present got any doubts in
themselves that you - by now in Scientology - that you live
only once? Do you think you live only once? Who around here
chinks you live only once? (pause) Ah, you're
scared - there's somebody around here thinks you live only
once. (laughter)

Male uoice: Sure, you never stop living; you're only living 
once. (laughter)

Ha-ha-ha-ha! Very good, you never stop living; you're only
living once. That's correct, that's correct. Okay, I was
just hoping for somebody to bite on that. I have a lot of
very interesting experiments I like to perform, because I
love to see somebody's jaw drop.

I'm going up to the organization that makes most of the lie
detectors for police departments in the United States and
I'm going to feed them this, and on Hubbard College stationery 
have them interchange some correspondence with me about it - 
after I've proven it to them. So that they can write to all the
police departments, showing this letter, which says
"Hubbard College," and advise all their machine operators
everywhere as to what's happening, having proved it
conclusively in that institute, you see? And so then all
police departments will be apprised of past lives, and they
have to know about past lives, and after that we've got the
ball rolling.

All right, [marking on blackboard] here's conception and
here's present time and here's birth. Now, let me show you
the mechanism of a standard overt act which really isn't an
overt act.

The overt act of birth. Very, very many people believe that
their being born was an overt act. That's nothing, by the
way; some people believe simply that their being alive is
an overt act against the society. And not only that, very
many people being alive is an overt act against the
society! (laughter)

Now, here you have birth, and this child was unaware of
birth being an overt act for some years. About the age of
four, why, there's a lot of old ladies sitting around with
Mama, and Mama's saying, "Oh, what a horrible time I had,"
and "Oh, it was terrible. The labor pains lasted for eight
weeks, and I was under constant sedation for about three
months afterwards, and they had to operate seven times, and
they had to transplant the whole Mayo Clinic down here,
and I couldn't even be moved and the doctor said it was the
most difficult birth he had ever attended," she says very
proudly.

Well, the little kid listens to all of this and finds out
how much trouble he was. And being soft-hearted and
sympathetic and not keyed in badly yet, and not yet being
human, the little kid says, "Poor Mama. Poor Mama," and
begins to feel sorry for Mama and realizes what he did to
Mama. Now, that - just that can be an overt act. He can
conceive, then, that he's done an overt act.

But most of the time it happens much more flagrantly. The
child is born and about the first words he hears is "How I
have suffered for you. What I have gone through for you.
How much I have suffered," and "All I have done for you,
and then you do this to me."

And this can go on and on and on. It could go on - I've seen
men and women, forty, fifty years of age, that still had
live mamas who were pulling this one.

I don't know what Mama did to the kid they have to pay for
in this regard, but it must have been horrendous. Probably
AAs or probably the child was illegitimate or there's
something there. Mother, in order to pull this thing, feels
she has done something which she has to justify. Well,
we'll just leave it up in the air what that something is,
but the second you find a child on whom this is being
pulled, you have found immediately a mother who is
justifying some bad intention toward the child. Invariably,
you have found the other thing. Because you - here you see
she's declaring that an overt act. Now, this is a medium
stage. This is the stage of justifying.

All right, birth is an overt act. Now, [marking on
blackboard] we find here at the age of twenty-eight, this
individual does nothing but defend clubs. He is very, very
defensive about the Royal Order of Meese (that's the
plural of moose). And the Royal Order of Meese has to be
defended - has to be defended at all costs.

You say, "That's - that's fine, that's fine." You got this
preclear, you've asked him this "What do you defend above
all costs?" and he tells you "The Royal Order of Meese."
Now, when did he try to destroy this or another
organization? And you'll find right away, one of his
favorite indoor sports was trying to break up a club of
boys or a sewing society of girls or something of the sort,
earlier. He has actually been responsible for breakups of
groups in this life, in his youth. He has knocked them
apart one way or the other, and now he comes around and
starts to defend them.

Well, if you put him on the machine, you will find a real
overt act against groups in some earlier life. Big one.
Like he took thirty pieces of silver from somebody or other
and says, "You know that crowd of people over there, hm?
They're getting ready to overthrow the whole state and
here's state's evidence." And he gets them all turned in or
beheaded or something of the sort.

I ran into these one day - I ran into one of the government
agents who had had to do with the Guy Fawkes plot. It sounds 
weird, but the machine just started flashing all over the 
place on governments. So I thought of all the revolutionaries 
that had failed or been turned in or been informed on, and I
found out that Guy Fawkes... This boy, by the way, by this
time was a violent revolutionary. This fellow - this
preclear - in this present life, was violently revolutionary
against governments. In other words, he'd changed valence,

[R&D Note - Guy Fawkes: (1570-1606) one of the conspirators 
who, in November 1605, tried to avenge the persecution of Roman
Catholics in England by blowing up the king and the
Parliament. Barrels of gunpowder had been hidden under the
Houses of Parliament, and the plan, called the Gunpowder
Plot, was to set off an explosion at the opening of
Parliament on 5 November. Guy Fawkes was to execute the
plan and light the gunpowder. One of the conspirators,
however, warned a relative ahead of time, who revealed the
plot to the authorities, leading to the arrest and
execution of most of the members of the group, including
Fawkes.]

In the time when he committed this overt act, he was
violently in favor of governments, you see? Nobody should
overthrow a government. But he turned in some of the
plotters on the Gunpowder Plot and they were accordingly
jailed, tortured, hanged, drawn, quartered -  whatever was
done to them - and this sat on there as an overt act with
exclamation points. So I ran it out. And - tears and mopes
and groans and so forth about it all - lots of regret. And
got a change of attitude to something a little saner.

Now, this works out - you say, "This person is being very
defensive of women - very, very defensive of women. What's
he done to women?" See, it just works just like that.

Well now, oddly enough, what he's done to women was also
done to him - earlier, much earlier, Because you have to
have a motivator in order to get an overt act. So it's a
sort of a dizzy little circle.

And so, your plot here [marking on blackboard] looks like
this. Let's take a number of lives, now. These are
lives - births and deaths. Here we have A defending the
second dynamic - oh, violently defensive. Now, back here,
maybe two lives ago, we find A offending against the second
dynamic violently - A offending, [marking on blackboard]
second dynamic.

And now we go back here and we find, numbers of lives ago
(let's put another life - we'll say a thousand lives
intervened here), and we find a second dynamic offense
against A. And before that moment, we find no aberration.
Somebody did a second dynamic offense against A. Somebody
offended A on the second dynamic. A didn't dramatize it for
an awful long time, but one day really dramatized it, felt
sorry for it, regretted it, tried to turn it back, got the
aberration, actually picked up this first facsimile down
here on the second dynamic, wore its somatics, and is now
busily defending the second dynamic.

Now, that is the map, And that map applies to every
dynamic, every emotion, every effort, every thought or
attitude of thought, because, you see, there is overt
effort, overt emotion and overt thought.

Now, for instance, you find somebody feeling badly after a short
period of time - yes, you could scan the whole thing out of
them, you could pick up all the locks of what had happened
to them at this moment. But it's much better to find the
overt thought and their inhibition of it. Because they'll
think the overt thought and then they say, "I can't do it,"
or something of the sort. And it'll restimulate them.

They go in to this basketball game, and they come out of
the basketball game and they just don't feel well. They're
sick at their stomach or something of the sort. You ask
them what player they had an urge to kick in the stomach or
to hit in the stomach. And the fellow will look at you like
you're a mystic or something of the sort, because he was
clear out there on the floor and, yes, he did have that
urge. He had an urge to drive an elbow into one of the
boys' stomachs that was getting in his road. And he didn't
do it? Why didn't he do it? It's because he's already done
that overt act one time too many and felt too much regret
on it. So he checks himself from doing it. And the second
he checks himself from going through the action, it's
merely an overt thought, then, isn't it? And it's an overt
thought, and the overt thought is what backfires on him. So
he walks out of the basketball game with a sick stomach.

If you merely scan out the moment he thought this and why
he thought this (and by the way, "why" is always important
on these things because it's an evaluation) - if you ask
him why he thought it and when he thought it, and to get
the sensation of checking it, you get the emotion of
holding back the thought, you see? Thought is translated
into effort by emotion or inhibited from going into effort
by emotion. Ask him - get the emotion change as he didn't do
it, and you'll get the moment he got the sick stomach. And
the sick stomach will go away - boom! Now, knowing this
makes it very easy to pick up these things.

I was quite amused one day - an auditor said, "I will never
again process anybody who has not been indoctrinated a
little bit in overt acts, because this girl next door had
been having a bad stomach for a long time and I finally got
her to recall a time when she postulated she would like to
kick another girl in the stomach, and immediately her
stomachache went away. She just got this time - she
remembered it - but she came immediately to present time and
she said, 'And if she was here I'd love to do it again!'
and got her sick stomach back immediately." That's overt
thought.

Now, you should know all of this when you look at the whole
problem of self-determinism, Self-determinism is modified
by what happens to the individual and what the individual
does with what happens to him.

> Actually, determination is ...

Male voice: On that particular case you just explained, she
converted the overt thought through emotion into effort
against herself. Is that correct? 

You could say that she did, yes. It'd be a circular problem.

You see, an individual is a portion of the MEST universe.
And when they start to strike out against the MEST
universe - they start an action going - if the environment
cannot receive the action, then they do, because they are
part of the MEST universe. Their body is part of the MEST
universe; their mind is not. But their body is part of the
MEST universe and so they receive the action back - thud!

Now, self-determinism is thus modified. And
self-determinism can be measured directly by how many
dynamics a person is willing to take responsibility for - 
or in other words, the size of the person's sphere of
influence. What sphere of influence is a person willing to
take over? That will tell you immediately where he is on
the Tone Scale. It will tell you immediately how many overt
acts he's performed and it'll give you some sort of an
estimate on what has been done to him. The sphere of
influence is a modification of self-determinism. Sounds
complicated, but it isn't.

If a person has injured the galaxy at large, you might say,
believe me, he will have no thought of being able to
control that galaxy. If he has injured something - now, this
is just analogy - if he's injured something the area of the
solar system, he's no longer willing to take responsibility
for his act, he is also no longer able to take responsibility 
for the solar system. If he's injured earth - his sphere of 
influence as earth - he's willing to take responsibility 
less than that, but if he's injured earth, he won't take 
responsibility for earth because he has to take responsibility 
for his own act.

In each case, the individual sees that he has offended
against the dynamics, and if he took that responsibility he
would have to declare himself wrong. If he declared himself
wrong, he would also be declaring himself dead. And so what
he does is just pull back his sphere of influence.

Now, let's say he has offended against the United States
widely, and he doesn't have a sphere of influence against
this part of the continent. He won't include that.

And let's pull it in - and I'm just putting it in in terms
of space and time right now - it gets much more complicated,
but just showing you a contracting sphere.

Now, the individual, let us say, has offended against
groups - he doesn't want to take responsibility for those
groups anymore - and so the dynamic of groups is something
he is not going to touch.

And let's say he's offended against children, so he's not
willing to take responsibility for children, and he's
missing on that dynamic. He's offended against women - he's
not willing to be responsible for women, therefore his
second dynamic is all the way out. This leaves him dynamic
one. He still owns his body pretty well as long as he's
alive. And so his sphere of influence could then be his
body or the first dynamic only. And when he has offended
against this often enough, he won't even take responsibility 
for the first dynamic.

And so he contracts his sphere of responsibility. And when
he has contracted his sphere of responsibility to this
regard, then all the dynamics, all the counter-efforts, all
the counter-emotions, all the counter-thoughts of all the
dynamics can hit him. And most people, by the way, are
riding on this very little, thin margin between not quite
being able to stop all these efforts and barely being able
to sidestep them enough to keep alive in their own body.
This is just a concept that they have.

Your body is not your mind. Your facsimiles are not your
body, even though those facsimiles contain that blueprint.
The size of your mind is not the size of your brain. The
size of your mind is not the size of your body. Your mind
is as big as the galaxies or as big as the island universes
or as big as all the universes there ever are - it doesn't
matter how big it is, but it will be as big as, and will
influence as much as, you want it to influence. That's very
blunt. You could conceive your mind - it could be withdrawn
in its periphery to something the size of a head of a pin,
as in politicians. (laughter) Or you could expand it out so
that you were able to command your own body, as will do an
athlete: he is at least in command of his own body. Or you
could expand it out to the size of a group where you are
trying to handle or manage a group. You can expand your
mind that far.

And by the way, you won't handle that group unless you do
conceive your mind to be as big as that group.

You've got to be able to conceive your mind to be as big as
whatever you're trying to influence, because it means that
you've got to take the responsibility of whatever you are
trying to influence. So therefore, you've got to conceive
yourself that size.

You see, the trick in this is the mind doesn't have any
size. It doesn't have space or time. It merely has
recordings of space or time.

Most people looking at themselves in the mirror, looking at
space and time around them, looking at themselves, conceive
their mind to be merely as big as themselves. Now, most
people do not believe that they handle much of a periphery
of influence. Most people are actually having trouble with 
themselves. They have trouble with themselves.

If you can't sit down to a typewriter and learn how to type
on it in fifteen or twenty minutes, you're having trouble
with yourself. If you can't grow a better-looking nose,
you're having trouble with yourself. That's really blunt!
That's compared to an optimum - an optimum situation.

Therefore, in order to secure any freedom, or to call
yourself to any degree self-determined, you have to have a
concept of yourself to the size, to the sphere of influence
that you are trying to determine. What's self-determinism?
"Self-determinism" could be called something much better,
but most people couldn't take the bridge that fast. It
should be called something like "pan-determinism"  - pan
meaning all the way across or around or over.
Pan-determinism: determinism on all dynamics. And if you
were in 100 percent possession of your mind, of your
actions and so on, you would have 100 percent sphere of
influence over all the dynamics.

Pan-determinism. You're just as responsible for Russia
going to war at this moment, or trying to threaten the rest
of civilization with war, as Russia is. And in view of the
fact that Russia is not even vaguely responsible for what
it does, having contracted in each and every mind within it
to bare-necessity control of self, and having to think in
terms of "We're collectively something, but individually
nothing" - pretty badly off. If you knoeu - if you know that
you can be determined all the way across the line, just
potentially determined across all the dynamics - then, you
see, you have to accept the responsibility for Russia being
in the state of mind that it's in, as well as the United
States being in the state of mind it's in.

And if you were to just broadly accept responsibility for
the atomic situation in the world today, you would, of
course, do a great deal about it.  But as long as your
concept is that you can barely take care of yourself,
you'll not be able to do anything about the war.

Okay.

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