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2ND ACC 19B OF 9 DEC 53 "BODIES" 1/2
Transcript of Taped Lecture by L. Ron Hubbard

2 ACC 19B    -    5312 C09

Date of Lecture - December 9, 1953
                           BODIES
This is the afternoon of December the ninth and we're going

to take up some specific examples of patter on SOP-8C. In

the process of running SOP-8C, there are many things which

you can do right. There are few which you can do wrong. In

view of the fact that almost any preclear, when you first

lay your hands on him, is in a "I mustn't be hit" or

inverted  "I must be hit"  frame of mind, you see, I

mustn't be hit or I can be hit. It is very easy to

invalidate a preclear.
Now let's get this one ..just get this one down real good.

Let's get this down real good. Invalidation by words is the

symbolical level of being struck. You got that?

Invalidation by words is the symbolical level of being

struck. If a person is afraid of being hit, he is afraid of

being, quote, "invalidated", unquote. You see that? All

right!
Now let's, let's take a look at inversion. You know things

.. DEI, desire, enforce, inhibit ... you get things

inverted. A fellow can run just so long on, I have to have

something, until he gets into, I can't have it. Now, he'll

run I can't have it just so long until it all of a sudden

it is a terrific desire. He's got it down to a lower one,

you see. Now, if he desires it, something is going to see

to it that enforced havingness takes place and as soon as

enforced havingness takes place, he's going to be inhibited

in having and so he can't have it again.. And after he

can't have it on this lower inversion, then after a while

he realizes, I can't have that, he gets a terrific desire

for it. He gets curious about why he can't have that and so

he gets a desire for it. As soon as he gets a desire for

it, it gets enforced, that he must have it, and then, this

is obsessive and he doesn't like that. So, he decides that

he better not have it, so he can't have it, again. All the

time he's getting down on a lower grade of "it" - whatever

"it" is. 
In terms of sensation, it starts at the top with a complete

serenity and at the bottom winds up, goes through sexual

sensation, and winds up at the bottom on an utter sort of

a gooey degradedness. Sexual sensation too greatly

condensed is degradation. And force, any type of force of

this character is given a symptom of degradation.
All right! Now let's look at this inverting thing. Realize

then that a preclear is in a body, being protected by the

body, after a while, so that he won't get hit. He gets the

idea, he's in there, he mustn't be hit. Well, that's the

antithesis to perception because in order to perceive, he

has to be hit. He has to be hit by the wavelengths of the

things he's trying to perceive, so if he can't be hit, you

see, he can't perceive. (An aside)..No answer my dear

Watson ..
The next point in the line is DEI, you see. He mustn't be

hit, he mustn't be hit, he's gotta be, see. That's the next

thing. He desires to be hit. So, he sits around waiting for

you to invalidate him. You see how it goes on the far shoot

line? He says for a long time, I mustn't be criticized, I

mustn't be invalidated, I mustn't be criticized, and he's

gotta be. One day, he suddenly wakes up and says, "I must

be hit". You'll find this preclear going sslup to every

electronic they can lay their hands on. Bong - bang -

somatics. They gotta have somatics, they gotta come in on

them. They have to be insulted. They will work with you

until you finally insult them in some way or another

because they call an insult on this basis, invalidation,

see. Now, they get on a "I mustn't be invalidated", see. In

other words, I mustn't be hit is the force level on this.

Now, the symbolical level is, I mustn't be invalidated and

then that goes, eventually, into I must be invalidated.
Now there's, what we call, a motivator hunger. Now, when

you surfeit a motivator hunger, you have satisfied an

appetite which bumps them up one small gradient on the tone

scale. And, you'll find some preclears that you have going

through this motivator hunger, or overt hunger, and that’s

just this, "I must be hit", and so forth. Now, it goes this

way too, "I must hit", "I must not hit", see, "I desire to

hit", then, "I must not hit".. I beg your pardon.. "I

desire to hit", then "I have to hit", and then, "I must not

hit". And some people will run this cycle in one fight.

Often they'll slug somebody

- crash - boom- down somebody goes, and the next moment they're being very

sympathetic about the whole thing. You get that? See, I

must not hit, I must protect now.
Now, a Thetan early on the track ran this with bodies very

rapidly. I mustn't, I just gotta knock 'em off, and then,

poor bodies. And he's run back and forth on this about

bodies and you’ll find a preclear doing this under

processing. "Bodies - I don't want anything to do with

bodies - mest universe (mumbling ...) .." and the next thing you

know, what do you know, "bodies are just lovely -

wonderful, wonderful". So, you've bumped him up the tone

scale. You're running the DEI cycle backwards. "I can't

have bodies" into "I must have a body", into "I want a

body", again into, "aw I can’t have one", but milder, you

see. And then, "well I better have one", "well it's kind of

nice to have a body", and then up we go a little bit higher

on the thing and that ...  "well there are a lot of people,

sometimes I don't want a body and a lot of people, they

don't want bodies either", and then he goes up a little

higher, and "yeah I could have a body if I wanted one". You

see, you're running the DEI cycle backwards, it's IED,

upscale. 
So, that you'll find a preclear suffering consistently and

continually from this invalidation trouble - invalidation

and evaluation. Now as we go down scale with a preclear, we

find that evaluation becomes more and more harmful because

it impinges upon his knowingness. Invalidation, is actually

. goes straight up against motion and knowingness goes

into space and above that knowingness itself. You see? So,

we've got the two things. We've got motion and impact under

the heading of invalidation and we have cut down

knowingness under the heading of evaluation. So, we've got

these two categories sitting side by side. Now, these two

categories are in the symbolical level too. So, there's

evaluation by telling a person what his words actually

signify. This would be the same thing as cutting his

knowingness down because you're telling him something he

doesn't know. The only thing wrong with instructing in

anything is that it informs people of things they don't

know. Well, there is a time when you have to tell anybody

some sort of a scale of knowingness so that they can go

back up grade. At any class unit under instruction in

Scientology has to fight back up through this one because

they’re being told that they don't know when they're being

told techniques, when they're being told what these things

are. But this is a fast route and the only excuse for it

is, it’s far less harmful to do this because it puts them

on a route to being able to know for themselves.
So, what they don't know turns into in Scientological

instruction, turns into what you can know, and what I'm

giving you is headed that way. It's what you can know. It's

what you can do, it's what you can know. But if we cut this

down, on some preclears it comes under the heading ... they

hit pretty low, and it comes under the heading of

evaluation, so that they shudder back from... sometimes an

auditor will shudder back from being told a workable way to

do something simply because he’s trying to protect his own

knowingness. And now, what's the remedy is for that, is not

to refrain from telling him how to do something, but to

tell him how to do that which corrects the fact that he's

shuddering back from being told something. See, his

knowingness.
How does he, how does he get out of the state of mind

whereby he thinks his knowingness is being cut down by

learning how to know, see. How does he get out of that.

That would be the way to handle that problem in the same

way evaluation. We can cut right straight through the whole

problem of invalidation same way as evaluation. We cut

through the whole problem of invalidation, now very simply

by curing people of fear of being hit. Now, people are

actually afraid of being hit by words.
You can take somebody who's terribly bad off and you can

make him utter a word and then reach out and catch it. Now,

you wouldn't think this technique, this technique would

actually find anybody serious at all. You say, now say cat.

Now say, look at the word cat and say, gee, that'll be

training and reach out and grab it and put it in your

pocket. Hide it. You know, I have seen somebody keep this

up for an hour. I just sat there wondering how long they

could go on with this. They just went right on because it

doesn't, it doesn't point out what they're doing

immediately, you see. Why, it's just not going to. What

they'd have to do is move the postulate around for a while

until it stopped evaluating for them.
Now the other thing a preclear doesn't know is the

difference between a postulate and a word with meaning. A

big difference. I could throw all of you people in your ear

with this, but I'm gonna try not to (laughing). It'll leave

you utterly baffled (laughing), it's a horrible thing to do

anyway. A statement is sym... a consecutive meaning in

symbolic terms. You see, it's a symbolized meaning. A

postulate has nothing to do with meaning. A postulate has

to do with straight command and determination by, and it's

not made, a horrible thing  (laughing), and it's not made

with symbols. The place where, the place where people over

in India, go appetite over tin cup a lot of times is that

their rituals are perfectly valid but they use them in

words with people who can use only words. So, the things

which they start stacking up as mechanisms and so forth,

are word mechanisms. They're not postulate mechanisms. Now,

actually, if you want to know what I'm talking about right

then - 'til you all of a sudden see a postulate. Anytime

you're moving an idea around, you ordinarily are not moving

a postulate around, you're ordinarily moving a symbol

around, but by that process you eventually come out through

the top and say, what the hell am I doing with these

symbols. Of course, this is about the same time that the

lightning will crash, as far as that's concerned. It's

pretty high. But a postulate is above force and a symbol is

subject to force.
The difference between a postulate and a symbol is the

position on the tone scale. We have to go up through force

and be able to handle force before we really recognize a

postulate for what a postulate is, otherwise it is all, a

hundred percent, meaning, significance, whereas a postulate

is a direct command. You could make a preclear run a

postulate out. But a postulate is not a feeling, it's not

force, it's not a symbol. You might say it's an intention,

and very high. It's an intention which will not be brooked

but that again brings about the idea of effort,

determination, see. Heavy effort, determination, well that

isn't what a postulate is either.
The mountains will now collapse, dealt with the most serene

hand imaginable, would simply be in terms of a whole flock

of mountains collapsing, see. It wouldn't be a big

symbolized thing. It's just the fellow's self-determined

intention that something happens and it happens. Now, a

preclear becomes very frightened of this as long as he

can't use and isn't accustomed to handling force. So again

we have the problem of perception. Perception is a problem

of force.
He doesn't want to think on something for two reasons: one,

if he thinks where he is, they'll know too. You know, he's

afraid he'll let it out. He's afraid his mind will be read.

Somebody can find him. He's been told this often enough.

It's one of the biggest electronic tricks on the track -

was to tell somebody that he had to think right thoughts.

That he had to think thoughts which were properly

protective to the State, and if he thought thoughts which

were not properly protective to the State, he could be

arrested and things done to him. And if he thought thoughts

which were not properly protective and which yak, yak, yak,

and so forth, to the State, he would be located by the fact

that he was thinking them. So, a person gets afraid to

think for fear he will be located, and people who are

difficult to locate, are afraid of being located. And here

we have a single problem in fear to be handled as a

postulate - afraid to be located. Some version of that,

symbolically placed and put. And we handle that around

until all of a sudden he realizes it's nonsense. He can

think a thought without being located up in the sci-galaxy

where they're still looking for him and have big posters

all over the place, he thinks. Where they still have his

records and he thought the wrong thought up there. Well,

that's just another method of making a Thetan wrong.
So, very often, your preclear will become very disturbed

and he's unaccountably disturbed. Well now, it will lie in

three spheres only - evaluation - invalidation - and

location. He's afraid to be located, he's afraid to be hit,

and he's afraid to have his knowingness cut down. The

evaluation, he's afraid to have his knowingness cut down

because that's less space in his terminology. He's afraid

to be hit, so he naturally is afraid of any symbol which

goes counter to his motion. A symbol which is counter to

his motion is very upsetting to him and he is afraid he

will be located. Just that. Basically he was made afraid of

his own power. He destroyed things which he desired to

persist or he built a Frankenstein's monster, and this we

call the Frankenstein effect.
The fellow is sure that if he builds something and gets it

all beautifully created and it actually would walk and talk

and do something or other. It would go off down the street

and while down the street would do something very

destructive but just before it did something destructive,

he would say, Stop, and the thing won't stop. Well, we've

run immediately into resist all effects. See. He built it

to resist all effects and then because he desired

randomity, didn't put in, except his own. So he built

something to resist all effects. Well then, pray tell, why

is he upset that it resists all effects. Yet he is, because

it does a lot of effects which are elected as bad cause.
So in auditing an individual one does deal immediately and

intimately with these factors, continually deals with these

factors of evaluation, invalidation and location. And he

deals with another factor - automaticity. He has set

himself up, the auditor, as an automatic machine which

directs the preclear. Therefore he's liable to throw into

restimulation that machinery which the preclear has which

sends him places. Almost any preclear has got a machine

which sends him places.
So we run into a condition where the auditor says, "Are you

here?" and points to something, and that puts the preclear

there. The auditor isn’t doing it. The auditor has

triggered the machine which sends the preclear to any place

the preclear thinks of. The preclear's got that kind of a

mechanism. So, let's not overlook this. You can ask a

preclear only about four times, are you in the corner of

the room, or something like that, and if he's got one of

these machines, he'll trigger. That's why we say "not". He

hasn't got any machine that tells him where he's not, and

that's why we stress "not" as a postulate.
Now, you can set up some preclear this way, you can say,

"Are you on the desk?", "Are you in the chair?", "Are you

here and there?". You're, you're offering him places to be

which keys in the automatic machine that starts sending him

places. Almost any preclear has one of these things. What

do you do with the machine? Well, it's ... it comes under

the heading of Step four. You've wasted and so forth. Well,

what if it turns up, up here by location. Well, it won't

turn up here in Step one, if you ask him where he's not,

and that's why you ask where he's NOT, in Step one, so you

don't key off this machine. He's got it. It's all set,

ready to go.
Now, it could be defined as people learning how to use and

handle a life unit, and a life unit at this stage of

Scientology, advanced as we are, could be characterized

like a watch and you could actually put it down in terms of

learning how to keep a watch running. You don't have to be

able to build a watch to keep a watch running or repaired,

but the main difference is, the potentialities of the

preclear are so enormous that this fact over shadows many

other factors when you're working with him. You say, "Gee,

he is capable of so much". Well, in SOP-8C we're telling

you how much of him has to be handled. You get that?

That's, how much of him has to be handled, that's all, and

to this degree he is like a watch. You, to some degree are

like, if you're doing something for a Thetan, you're doing

something right - watch repairing. I mean, it's very

predictable. The facts that are going to be wrong in this

case, and they're not going to be something horrible and

huge and unimagined that hasn't ever been encountered

before. You'll never run into it. I guarantee it. You just

won't ever run into it.
You can run into a very imaginative Thetan. Though

unfortunately, in this universe, for the purposes of

auditing, his imagination, when he tries to throw you for a

loop with his imagination will boil down to these seven

steps. Why? Because this is modus operandi of a Thetan in

the MEST universe and the MEST universe has got him pretty

tame and there's only certain factors there that the MEST

universe is leaning against him on. So you don't have to

handle all this vast array of potentiality that an

individual has - enormous talents, imagination, and so

forth -, mostly because they can't be effective in this

universe. You're only trying to free him up to a point

where he can recognize that he can have freedom and after

that all the freedom he gets will be given to him by

himself. You get him up to a security where he knows he can

have freedom and he's on his own. You can't go any further

with the thing.
Now, his individuality sets in, actually, way above the

level when you suppose it does. The stimulus response

mechanisms of the body and of the Thetan himself are very

predictable. You are working with a predictable organism.

Duplication - creation - survival - destruction - eight

dynamics - automaticity - location in the MEST universe -

creation of space - handling of postulates - his fight with

barriers, being able to go through ‘em and not go through

'em. He just about said it, right there. I mean, this is

all you're handling.
What we've done is take this enormous problem, this problem

that was bigger than universes and it had just so much data

in it and we keep boiling the data down and throwing out

the irrelevance. There's nothing irrelevant in SOP-8C. The

only thing that isn't remarked on the brief form for

student use, which is issued at this time, is acceptance

level, processing acceptance level. And acceptance level ,

of course, should come in down there under perception, and

doesn't quite belong, but does belong in Step seven.
Acceptance level: An acceptable state of blindness, an

acceptable state of illness, and so on, this is an

acceptable state of being afraid. During World War II, all

the young officers had an acceptable state of being afraid.

Older officers, who weren't this indoctrinated and didn't

see you had to have an acceptable rate of being afraid or

officers, who actually were officers instead of college

boys in cute clothes, they were, they were utterly ... I

mean, they almost vomit listening to these young fellows.

These kids who stand around and they'd say how they ducked

and how they got out of this and how they got out of that

and how scared they would be if they'd been in that fight.

And boy, were they running a big agreement on fear and you

of course, would assume immediately that if young officers

in groups, young men at the age when young men are athletic

and adventurous and so forth, you would assume that these

people were, were you know, just kidding. Well, they might

have just been kidding at first but they weren't as the war

went on. A lot of them did many, many brave and heroic

things. They got startled out by an acceptance level,

startled out of acceptance level into necessity level in

many places and, very fortunately, not all the young

fellows were like that. Very far from it, but they actually

had themselves talked into it so that, so that about two

years, three years deep into the war, these boys were green

around the gills at the thought of danger, couldn't

tolerate the thought of danger.
I used to, I used to heckle this sort of thing. Very wicked

of me, I know, but something like sound the GQ in officer’s

quarters only, and fire such a flock of blanks out of a

victory model or stern gun, very effective. It got them

out of ... it eventually broke their fear neurosis on

coming up to the bridge. I did start doing things like that

after I found out that they couldn't find the General

Quarters stations 'til a half an hour after the alarm was

over. Credible - oh yes, that's very credible. One fellow,

who really got green, he went down the ladder and decided

he would hide in the magazine and then found out it was his

own magazine. He should have known better than that and

(laugh) the shells were rolling around loosely in it.

(laughing) It was upsetting to him.
After a few things like this happened, we took the only

type of processing there was, which was just experience.

You know, I mean, it's all you could do to some fellow -

it's experience. Made enough uproar around 'til we

conditioned them. I think the U.S. Army was doing something

of conditioning at the end of the war, but they never got

the idea, mostly because the officers in charge of the

organizations never would have credited this new level of

agreement on: - let's all be scared - that's the way to be

acceptable to everybody in the troops and everybody and

just be scared stiff all the time. You see ‘em say, "Gee,

I'm not brave, I wouldn't know what to do if I had to do

something" and "Gee, I was way back of the lines when that

happened" and patter, patter, patter, patter, patter, see.

It just gradually eats in, eats in, eats in.
You run across a preclear almost anywhere, anytime, he has

had certain patterns of agreement on fear. Now, you don't

have to know. I'm just giving you an example of how big it

can be and how little of it you have to handle. Now, you

see, it’s a big subject - the war and morale and cowardice

and agreement and what would Thetans do under that

circumstance. Well, you don't have to be able to predict

their behavior because almost anybody has been in some kind

of a situation back up on the track where it was

fashionable to be frightened.
In Greece, the days when Greece was really caved in, it had

become very fashionable to be very effeminate about

everything, war, male, and one dusted his finger tips

daintily with a silk lace handkerchief, and put a perfumed

apple to his nose and said, hmhm. That was in the days when

they'd send over one squad of legionnaires from the tenth

cohort of Rome, or something, to take garrison at the

northern end of Greece and all would remain calm through

out Greece. Greece was a slave at that time.
(continued in part 2)