Thank
you. Thanks a lot. I thank you. Appreciated, appreciated.
Nobody did that in Spain, although when we left, when we left, you would
have thought we, the whole foundation of the area we'd been living in had been
pulled out from under, the people turning out to see us and say goodbye, and
tears in their eyes and all very wild.
And I see I've been gone quite a while - what's the date?
Audience:
the 23rd
The
23rd of February, the 23rd of February.
That's right.
Mary
Sue looks younger and, and you didn't really know, but she's the shortest-eared
burro in the world.
Audience:
we didn't hear that.
It's
the shortest-eared burro in the world. Time you've carried the huge bags of photographic equipment over
hill and dale. John Lawrence offered to
go down and, and carry my photographic equipment for me and so forth, over the
hill and dale, and I said, "Oh no, John," I said, "This is, this
is mainly a matter of putting my foot on a rail and sleeping it all away, don't
you see? And I'm not going to be very ambitious and so forth." Well, as soon as I got down there, I got
ambitious. And there was nobody around
but Mary Sue, and she gainly started packing all sorts of baggage over her
shoulder. And I kept noticing that the,
kept noticing that the burros, you know, that the Spaniards use down there and
so on, they were really recalcitrant, so she started getting recalcitrant. She, you know, she wouldn't climb over a
pile of rocks or something like that.
So I started calling her a burro, and then I noticed, oddly enough, that
she was the shortest-eared burro in the whole world.
She
did very fine. The only thing that she
did wrong, she did something wrong while she was gone, and that is to say she
petted a cactus. Now the, the Spaniards
do something weird, they pull the spines, they use the cactus for decoration,
they pull all the spines out with a pair of tweezers. Pretty wild, you know, who'd ever think of doing that? And so, she saw one of these cactus, and she
was going around looking at a lot of them, and she didn't realize they hadn't
gotten the LITTLE spines apparently. So ever since, every few days, why, we'd
pull another cactus splinter out of her hand. Little tiny things.
But
otherwise, we had a good time and everything is fine. And it was cold in Spain,
cool in Las Palmas. And there is no
winter vacation area over on the European side, North of, I think, Liberia or
something like that. And you have to go
quite a while but, quite a ways, but anyway, they're getting faster and faster
aircraft and I'm very, very close to not needing any aircraft anyway. Symptoms of this are turning up. Well, we had a good time and mainly I got a
good long distance look at everything.
I did quite a bit of research and I cracked Level VII. I haven't RUN Level VII, I haven't finished
Level VI by an awful long ways. But all of a sudden, one fine day toward the
end of vacation, actually it was on the boat coming home, and I was sitting
there and I took a look and all of a sudden, realized that although I hadn't
run VI, I found out there was something over there, and what was that, and
suddenly realized I was looking at Level VII.
And you talk about being right, my god, how right can you get?
Level
VII, of course, is the 8 Dynamics. And
we're right back at the beginning. It's the 8 Dynamics, and you run them out,
and that's Level VII. And it isn't
experiential track and it's not very hard to do. In fact, it's so easy to do that I'm having a hard time not doing
it. I know I've got to finish Level VI,
and when I discovered it and so forth, plus my stomach, too - too much, don't
you see, I mean, it's like a little boy and he's been wishing for a lollipop, you
know, and somebody gives you an ice-cream factory. And you're stomach goes, you're stomach turns cold as ice, you
see, and somatics chasing all over the body and me and so forth, while I was
looking at this stuff. You know, it's just, just, but that's me, you know, to
try to climb that escalator vertical.
And it's right there. And oddly
enough, there isn't anything more to find out about it. I got it all taped, I got its patterns and
actions and everything else. It only
took me about 45 minutes, when I'd finally seen it, to see the whole thing. And
it's not very complicated and you probably could run out Level VII, I don't
know, in two or three sessions.
But,
you see, to make myself more, more, more clear, there's the ancient question of
"Are we one or are we individuals?"
Well, I told you, someday we'd have to solve that, so that's
solved. And what's this stuff?
((pounding on podium)) Well, you see,
there isn't anything much beyond this because then I found out that you don't
really have to destroy the MEST universe to get out of it. It's an INDIVIDUAL proposition. It appears to be a collective proposition
but it's not, it's an individual proposition. And you can go ahead of it in
time, back of it in time, you can go out of it, it can still be there, you
don't have to destroy it - you don't have to destroy it for everybody. That was
one of the things I was a little bit worried about, oddly enough. If I ran out the MEST universe, would it
still be here for anybody else? Seemed
to me to be a bit of an overt. And you
can run out the MEST universe and it's still there for other people. You don't
have to be in it and you don't have to NOT be in it, you know? But that's Level VII. And so, the vacation
wound up in a, in a very high-peak win, in spite of it being cold and so forth.
But
one, one, about the only thing that really happened that was of very great
interest is I found that psychologists were wrong again. And although that isn't news, it's
interesting to find a point. I've been
told by them that animals don't commit suicide and I've even thought myself
that animals didn't commit suicide, and that's not true. I ran across an animal that committed
suicide and he was a bear, a big Alaskan brown bear, that they had in a zoo
down in Las Palmas. And the way this
zoo got started is of some interest.
Columbus shoved off from Spain to discover the New World and his first
stop was the Canary Islands, which had already been conquered by Spain about a
century or so before, or less than that.
And he stopped off and spent a bit of time and then, of course, after he
discovered America, why, he called in at the Canary Islands again. And before he got back to Spain, at one of
his, his way stop was the Canary Islands, so actually, he got to the Canary Islands
before he got back to Spain. Well, the
Canary Islands are very "aufey" - savvy, to go French on you, the
kids are studying it so I have to - the Canary Islands are very knowing on the
subject and very up to snuff on the subject of the discovery of the New
World. And they probably know more
about it than they do in Spain. And the
natives down there still sell models of Columbus's various ships, you know, all
these things die out slowly, they still carve and sell these little wooden
models, it's the Nina and Pinta and Santa Maria. Anyway, there's a museum down there, there's Columbus House and
so forth, "Columbus slept here" - actually, that's what they tell you
- and a lot of his relics. And when he
came back from the New World, well, of course he gave them some Cheerios and so
forth, and apparently started them a zoo.
And
the zoo has been going on ever since, but not the same animals. And one of
these animals in the zoo, there's a pair of them and actually, one additional
one in some other cage, but a pair of, of Kodiak bears, of a smaller edition,
and the Spaniards didn't know that bears hibernate. Although the Kodiak doesn't do too much hibernation, he
nevertheless is a hibernating animal, a bear is, and they wouldn't let this old
bear go to sleep, but kept turning him out to do his stuff for the
visitors. Typical Spanish treatment of
animals, you know, they're very rough on animals. And they kept turning this bear out and they're ripping him out
of the cement cave that he would get curled up in and he'd finally gotten very
sick. And the temperature down there
was running, daytime and so forth, about 60, 65 and so forth, and it's very
cold to the Spaniards, so he considered the bear was getting sick because it
was "cold" weather. Well,
naturally, this bear, probably before he saw the zoo, and his breed and so
forth would consider 40 like London considers "a sweltering 77 in London
today." I mean, that is a
headline, a serious headline. But he'd
consider 40 degrees a "sweltering 40 degrees," you see? And they kept
turning him out and he got sick, and he started to protest on the basis of
getting very sick and he was a VERY sick bear, one of the sickest bears I've
ever seen. He'd go into shivers and ice
cold and his legs wouldn't hold him up and he'd get frozen in one spot, don't
you see, and then all of a sudden, why, he'd get red hot and start panting and
so forth. And he had fever and chills
the like of which I never saw, and he was weak as a cat. The other bear in the cave was, of course, stark
staring stir-crazy and she'd attack him all the time., and life was just to
grim. And he was about the least
climbing bear that anybody ever, that breed doesn't climb anyhow. And that iron
cage came up to the top and met in the middle, very high and very difficult to
do anything with, a monkey would have had a hard time climbing it. And that bear, a few days later, climbed up
to the top of the cage, all god-knows-how-many pounds of him, in this horrible
state of not being able to walk, he climbs up to the top of the cage, gets to
the total top crown of the cage, and drops on the cement. That was the end of the bear. The most
forthright case of suicide I think I ever saw in my life. So apparently, animals DO commit suicide,
because HE sure did. Only one of the
few interesting stories we ran across.
Of
course, one runs across lots of interesting stories, but this, we, we saw the
bear and we knew the bear and it happened while we were right there. Fantastic
situation.
Well,
I see I've been gone an awful long time because this student list goes pretty
long and some of you have been here for quite a while, and so it will seem
strange to you to be introduced at this particular moment. Nevertheless, I am
going to introduce you one by one.
Stand up and take a bow Ron Pook.
Cal Rigney. Val Rigney. Constance Flemming. Joe Gains. Peter Rost. Wally Pallas. And Barbara Poole, to whom I owe a considerable favor. She, she acted as another burro. Thank you, Barbara. Dorothy Knight. Laura Printer. Roger Throw. David Hollywell. And Nan Beardsley.
And
Arthur Francis. And last but not least,
a retread, Leon Bosworth. Well, I see
in, in calling that role, most of you, most of you newcomers are in very good
shape and everything is cheerful, and some of the others have some overts, so I
will be watching that. Now on, on the
basis of I don't want to have missed a withhold, so I call to your attention
the fact that I have already announced it so I haven't missed it. Alright.
Well, I'm very glad to see you here. And I'm glad to see the rest of you
and I'm glad to see that you're getting along the line.
I
noticed there's been a few separations, but you should be having a ball. I noticed you had an alter-is in one of the
processes, you were doing some listing you shouldn't have been doing on Level
VI. Yeah, there was some listing going
on that shouldn't have been done and it
was slowing down your tone arm action, but that's all straight. And then you've got, you've got a wide-open
road on that particular level because right now, I'm, I'm just putting up the,
putting up the rack of GPMs. But let me
give you a little comment here, just as we, as we go in passing here, R6EW and
so forth is not about to fade from view.
Let me call to your attention that when you bring a student in onto R6,
he is for the first time on solo audit.
It's
going to take him some time to get used to that, to run a meter. And about that time, he learns why a meter
works and he learns all sorts of things about auditing, which is quite
remarkable. It's a very educational
action for him to undertake. In
addition to that, he does several other things in that he finds out why he has
been operating the way he has been operating and so forth, and he gets himself
pretty well settled down.
Now,
at that point, if he cannot get tone arm action with R6EW, he has no business
at the level in his auditing. He's back there, he's unable to talk to the
auditor, don't you see, and he's got too many worries about his PTPs and he's
got this and he's got hidden standards.
And he's got the Book of Case
Remedies, and he has no business at the level. So at that moment, if it's too grim and too gruesome, he can be
taken off and jumped through the Book of Case Remedies and put in some kind of
condition and run from the bottom up till he's back up there case-wise. You see, you can run any process on him,
there is no process that is barred out.
Just because he's been on R6EW does not spoil ANY lower level process,
you see, you can run any of them. Now
therefore, it gives us, it's very important that we have this, it gives us this
breathing spell because the truth of it is if you ran him into actual GPMs,
they would run just enough to get him into the channel of the GPMs and start
him down the line. And it would go just
enough to get him completely smeared in and after that, you couldn't run
anything on him that had words [endwords] in it. In other words, it'd be a near thing. He could be fished out of this, but it would have to be very
delicately done. In other words, he's gone in over his head and as a PC, he's
wandering around in a lost state somewhere in the reactive bank, don't you see,
and now to pull him out of this with some junior process becomes a very
difficult thing.
That
is what is wrong with R6 and that is R6, the biggest problem, and that is why
R6 is only being taught at St. Hill, you see, because when this sort of thing
happens, it's quite catastrophic. Well,
that WAS happening here for a while and I always run a very heavy pilot, right
where I can straighten it out right up close, before I let any dynamite package
like this go OUT very far. And it's,
that's why it's only being taught at St. Hill.
It is solved now, however. It is
an intricate level and it can get so much good that we just know very well
somebody, if it was released to broadly, who, who should be being trained at
Level O, don't you see, why, somebody would be ambitiously for a quick buck or
something like that, trying to audit or train him at Level VI. We already have an example of somebody who's
running a group someplace or other, and he, he had them all on Level VI, you
know, of what he thought was Level VI, and we had another thing of a guy
bringing somebody on and audit him for a short time and, and then a perfectly green
PC, turning him loose with an e-meter to run Level VI on himself. Well of course the guy just had one long
parade of catastrophes. I don't know
that anybody DIED as a result of it, but it could easily have happened.
So
anyway the, this was an important, this was an important step, to find some way
to put somebody into Level VI and get him accustomed to solo audit, and find
out whether or not he could take it, without actually getting him into the
middle of the reactive bank so that he couldn't be rescued.
And
that process is R6EW, so you're going to see that around for a long time. And
that is your bridge process. It's quite an amusing process in that you have
cognitions like mad, but you finally get up to a point, when you run through
R6EW-S in sixes and when you start getting the track plotted out - I got, I got
the bulk of the track all, all in sequence.
What, what will happen is, I'll tell you now the course of action, you,
you get to a point finally where you, where you don't have to audit it to find
out what it, it is. See? I mean, you get loose enough on the
thing. I was very interested, not an
hour ago, I felt cold, you know, and I was just hurrying around trying to get
some things done and I just felt cold, and I was wondering why I felt cold. And I, I just took a look and there were
about sixteen end-words lying on it.
And I said, "Well, what do you know? That's an awful lot of end- words." I didn't bother to go over them, don't you
see, I just whhhhwhhhwhh, look at that mess, you know, not even auditing, you
know, "I-feel-cold, wonder-what's-wrong, oh-well,
look-at-that-mess-of-end-words, you-know, whhwhhh, so on. It's those sixteen
end-words." And I didn't think anything more about it, it went on for
another minute or so and I said, "Wow!
I've been trying to solve the problem of, one of these end-words,
another end-word entirely, on which all the remaining sixteen were serving as
locks. In other words, GPMs operating
as locks on GPMs, which is pretty interesting.
Anyway, from that one could extrapolate rather
easily that when a, a poor condition, let's say you didn't run out the bank,
see, when a, when you found yourself in a poor condition if you went on a, with
an elementary process like R6EW, carried it up to R6EW-S, carried it up to
R6EW-P, you would very shortly find yourself in a position where it would be by
inspection of the same nature as, "Boy, I got a problem." You're suddenly, you know, you have a
problem, you just know you've got a problem
You're car won't start so you know you have a problem. Well, you don't consider that auditing,
where your bank becomes sufficiently confrontable and you're up to a point of
where it is no more worry than this.
And it's a little bit weird to me, to look back at, at a year ago when I
could collide cross-wise with a couple of GPMs that were, get them wrong or
something like this, and practically get the top of my head torn off or come
down with a high fever or something of this sort, you know, of absolute
catastrophe. You see now, that compares
with, with, "Hmm, stomach feels cold, oh, I, hmhmhmhm that's about
sixteen, about sixteen end-words have gotten piled up there, what do you
know," and go on doing what I'm doing.
"Oh well, they're all serving as locks on any there, well what do you
know," and go on with what I'm doing but not feeling cold. That's a bit of a different look, isn't it?
Because
originally, it was a basis of, "We better not fool with that because
that's too close a lock on a GPM."
See? So your confront on these things comes right on up and the
extrapolated, that is the, the predicted course of action or the predicted
change of condition and so forth, does take place.
These
things become more and more confrontable, you're more and more able to handle,
and you get up to a point of where they're not worrying you. They're not worrying you to the degree that
you look through and see the other side of the fence, you know, and so these,
these... One, the condition is
attainable of that, and the end product of OT is attainable, that becomes quite
obvious on a practical basis. And the
other thing is, weirdly enough, is attainable with the processes you've got in
R6EW, R6EW-S and R6EW-P, regardless of running them, running the whole GPM. See, that's the other predicted condition. In other words, you can get to a point
where, you get to a point where the bank is so thin, it's just blowing. I mean, inspection blows it. Not inspection of it is, is it the right
word and does it fit in the right place, but you just notice it and it blows,
don't you understand, I mean, the thing has got that much, it's that weakened
in command value. The command value has
become so weak as far as you're concerned that it can't concern you and it's
aberrative value, of course, is proportionately weak.
And
in addition to that, why, it's ability to do anything to you physically is proportionately weakened. I mean, you're becoming, you're becoming
cause over a thing which before you were the total effect of. You see that
happening while you’re running R6EW, R6EW-S and so on. Very improbable that you
will ever really have to run, or future auditors in training and so forth, will
have to run R6EW-S or R6EW-P, because what we'll do is we'll find out if the
guy's all right at the R6EW, you see, can he make it go and can he solo audit
and is he OK, and then we'll just start opening up sections of the cabinet and
show him the plot from the top down, all very accurately done.
Because
the probability, by the way, of his colliding with the accurate plot is so
negligible as to be neglectable. That's a weird thing to say, isn't it, but
it's true. See, I've had people giving
me what they thought the plot was here for about a year, and they're pretty
wrong. You probably could attain all
this, however, by running if you ran it long enough - this is a long route,
R6EW, R6EW-S, R6EW-P - you probably could attain the final blowing of the
bank. But that's a long route, you see,
now you're looking at a couple of years of auditing or something like that, if
you're going at it.
Not
very intensive auditing, a couple of years of the kind of auditing you, you get
when you're not at St. Hill, you see, you know, now and then sort of a thing,
session a week maybe, if you're lucky, or something like that. Well, it'd still
take you a couple of years to, to do this all the way, whereas, you're looking
at in terms of running time and so forth, you're looking at about three months
of auditing to a total clean OT. That's
what you're looking at right now is about three months of, of hammer and tongs
auditing to go on up the line to, to total OT.
When
you get up to total OT, you find yourself still in this universe. Well, you're cause over matter, energy,
space and time, that's absolutely true.
Perfect
definition, you're cause over it, in this universe. And your causation is not
anything absolute, don't you see, it's because you've still got, you've still got 8 Dynamics. And if you noticed that there are seven Dynamics flanking the 6th
Dynamic. See? So Level VII in actual
fact is, is, is an odd way to number it because you say it really, really it
should be Level VIII if there are eight Dynamics in connection with it. It's very possibly true, but in actual fact,
you'll find out that you're only really handling seven of them. You prove, I've got the other one squared
away, but the rest of, it's just the MEST universe.
You've
got a bank, don't you see, you've got a reactive bank. And what happens when you haven't got a
reactive bank? Well, we've never
assumed otherwise that that a person would be in the physical universe with no
reactive bank. That's perfectly
accurate, see? What happens then? His next bank, of course, IS the physical
universe. That IS the next bank. The universe of trolley cars and buses and
brick walls and Everest, what's that?
Well, that's a bank. You could
describe it as such and it is as such.
I notice nobody gets out of it.
I notice they leave and kick the bucket, and they're right back in the
bank again.
Every
once in a while, science fiction boys will worry about other universes and
moving around in various universes, particularly after they've read Dianetics
and Scientology textbooks. And, but
factually, even Wells and so forth was running into, he, he never considered he
would get outside the physical universe.
It's only occasionally that some science fiction writer will mention
going into another universe. And they
speak then, that is sort of this universe, but there is a this universe with a
time warp in it, you know, or a space warp, or it's "this universe with a
..." Well, they're off the string
to the degree that, it's NOT, you don't go from this universe to another
universe, see, you have to, you don't move into another universe because you've
moved out of this universe.
You
see? And it's a very hard situation to
grasp, you see, you feel your brains creak when you're trying, trying to grasp
the thing originally, which is what was happening to me in trying to cognite on
this thing. What was this all
about? Well, when you, well, you don't
have to have a bank, you see, you put it in this category - you don't have to
have a bank. You don't have to every
time you, you have some thought that you shouldn't have or something of the
sort that clobbers in the back of the neck with a somatic or, or something like
this. You don't have to have a bank,
you'd perfectly comfortable without one, and you can think much better than the
bank can, I assure you, particularly when you finally find out to your horror
what is IN the bank and what the basic motivation of Man is. Too incredible for words, it's all backwards
to anything anybody would think, you see, "The thetan is basically good so
he made a bad bank because everybody else was bad and then, if we ALL had this
bad bank, then we wouldn't do all these bad things." Hey.
Well, this bad bank proposition, well, a person would be much better off
if he didn't have the bank and that's quite obvious, even on a short-term
look. A fellow runs part of his bank
out and he can now start functioning better, you know, he, he doesn't have asthma anymore and he
can think and he doesn't get the jitters and start screaming just because a
girl with nylon stockings walks through the room, you know, something like
that.
So,
he's getting along much better, he's much more effective and that sort of thing
- no bank. Alright. That little section of the bank is gone, so
he's more effective, you see? By
extrapolation, if the whole bank's gone, he'd be terrifically effective. And true, he is, he never dreamed how effective
he really is, see? Well now that's,
that's perfectly observable, you see, because that's finite observation. Well, if you apply the same thoughts to the
MEST universe, you've got it answered.
Clearly, it's un-, you know, the hard thing is that, "What would
you do if you didn't have a MEST universe?"
You
know? Well, psychiatrists and
psychologists today think the same thing about a bank, "What would you do
if you weren't neurotic?" See? "What would I do if I weren't
crazy?" Well, so you can get into
that same state of mind about a reactive bank that everybody IS in about the
physical universe., see, "What would I DO without it?" What do you do
WITHOUT one? What the hell have you got one for? What, what you got to have a road for? You know? And you say, "Well, what are you, what are you
talking about, what do you got to have a road for? You can walk on it, you can drive on it and you, it's a very
useful road and it's a very nice road and it's a very nice thing to have a
road." Yeah, it's a very nice
thing to have a road and I don't really know why you have to have a road if all
you have to do is have a road. You get
the point? That seems to be much more
interestingly direct, it seems to me you'd get into lots more interesting games
in very peculiar ways if all you had to do to have a road was have a road.
ROAD, you know? See a traffic cop
running on your road, NO ROAD.
You
talk about a random, life would become very, very, very interesting. A guy would have to be in complete apathy to
want things as dull as having a universe all laid out, predictable all the
time. Every time you look at your
watch, five, five minutes from the last time you looked at your watch, it's
five minutes later. Crazy business, you
know? Well, it's like a fellah in a
cage, it's like, I guess, animals get in zoos.
"At five o'clock, the keeper is going to come and feed us and
that's, we have to have that." So
nice and certain. "All we have to
do is sit here in this cage and at five o'clock, the keeper will feed us. And if we WEREN'T sitting in this cage, we
wouldn't get fed at five o'clock."
You see the logic? Well, that's
actually the logic that a thetan uses to account for the MEST universe and so
forth, and he's just security-happy, he's got to have security. He's in complete apathy about being able to
do anything himself, so he, he's got to have all this total security and the
least randomity drives him out of his mind.
Don't you see?
Well,
to give you an idea, what would happen if the sun started moving backwards? Without any phenomenon, without any
geological cataclysm, see, but if just all of a sudden, you woke up one
morning, the sun was over in the West and it was traveling to the East - or it
got to noon and went into a spiral for a while. Do you realize what would happen out here in the streets? Can you envision the streets of London while
that was going on? Boy, would the Catholic church make money! You can predict that, too. But now, that's, well, everybody'd go
frantic. Well, why would they go so frantic?
Well, because it's destroyed their un, their certainty and their
predictability.
Well,
why do they got to have this much predictability? Why shouldn't the sun move to
ten o'clock and stay there till August?
"Oh, Bill, Bill, you forgot to move the sun!" "Hey,
that's your hat." "No it isn't.
We changed hats last Tuesday."
"We did not." "Yes,
we did." "You forgot to fill up the ocean. Well, who's responsible for mocking up the ocean here this
week?" "Oh, they don't need any ocean, we had to have a desert
scene. The only place we could find for
it was the middle of the Pacific Ocean." "What Pacific
Ocean?" "Physical universe
Pacific Ocean." "Oh, you want to look at the physical universe
Pacific Ocean? Well, alright, go take a
look at the physical universe Pacific Ocean." "I can't. I've run
it out. I'm not crazy like that
anymore." Then you say,
"Well, what happened to it? If
everybody else has got it mocked up, why, what happened to it?"
The
truth of the matter is it never was there, it never IS there and it never WILL
BE there. Just, everybody's got it
there. So the end product of things
look something along in that view, don't you see? You can, you can have it, you can have it, you can have it and
you can go on seeing it and that sort of thing. And you can undoubtedly vary it or alter it to a considerable
marked degree, but when you think of varying and altering, don't just think of
the physical universe. If you're going to vary and alter MEST, why have you got
to pick on the MEST of the physical universe to vary it and alter it. Vary and alter your own MEST. Joe and Bill have got a piece of MEST, so
they vary it and alter it. I don't see
why they have to vary and alter Gibraltar. They COULD vary and alter Gibraltar,
you see, at the same time and it'd get varied and altered for other people, but
it would get varied for people to the degree that they were aberrated by it, to
the degree they were overwhelmed by the bank.
You
wonder why 8-C works, well, oddly enough, 8-C of course is a cousin, not to
Level VI, but is a cousin to Level VII. And you wonder why people suddenly have
leaped out hospital beds on having read Dianetics, Evolution of a Science, or
something of that sort. You were cheating
out some little piece that they had in disarray at Level VII, NOT at Level
VI. And then the reason you got gains
on your subjective processes and so forth, is because you were doing things to
Level VI. So you remember for years and
years and years, we've had subjective and objective. Well, subjective - of course, Level VII is also subjective to the
degree that it is your bank, don't you see, but you'll get over that because
you, that, you have to do a weird little trick with logic to get that thing
squared out.
In
other words, the situation is simply that subjective processes, or think or
figure processes or processes like, any of, practically any of your, your
repetitive processes, ARC Straightwire, see, they were influencing Level VI and
they were taking locks off Level VI.
You following? They were
straightening out the mental, purely mental masses. And so therefore, they were
keying out bits of the reactive mind and that's what a subjective process
was. And then, an OBjective process is
a Level VII process, that familiarized and accustomed a person to his, the MEST
universe bank, see, his, his OTHER bank.
And that's why you would very often find somebody that you could run and
run and run and run and run and they wouldn't have a single comm-lag on level,
on 8-C. You know, they could just run
and you say, "Now look at that wall, walk over to that wall, go on and
touch that wall ..." The guy does
it and does it and does it. When you
finish up, he's no better. I know it's, it was seldom this happened but it did
happen every once in a while. You'd get
one PC out of about ten or fifteen in HGCs that you run them on 8-C and they
... And we explained it on the basis
you couldn't develop a commlag so the process was to high for them. How ABSOLUTELY correct. We were trying to run them on a Level VII
process. See? That, that was their, the harmonic, the lower harmonic of Level
VII. We were making them touch walls,
don't you see, and they were actually putting the universe back. You know, there are people around who had
walls right up against their faces and all kinds of weird, because of course,
nobody REALLY knows how the MEST universe looks to anybody else. You see?
And they had people who had different universes, they've got them in,
they've got them in insane asylums all the time and it's not necessarily
something subjectively wrong with them at all.
That's OBjectively wrong with them.
It isn't because their mind is giving them a wrong world, don't you see,
their mind isn't giving them anything - their mind as we would think of it or
know it and that sort of thing, would be Level VI - there's nothing wrong with
their mind. There is something wrong
with their environment. They've just
merely got an aberrated VII, see, it didn't have to be aberrated at VI at all.
See,
this guy's got it fixed up so that all walls are 45 degree angles and he could
even have it aberrated objectively to the point where he was dealing with some
"when Knighthoods were in flower" timewarp, so dragons keep walking
in through the front door, the dragons might walk in through the front door,
they might even bite him, maybe he, or maybe not. You see, we describe it as DELUSION. But that, that says there's
something wrong with his MIND, you see, in HERE, see, an introverted
error. No, it's an EXTROverted error.
See, it isn't "in here" that's wrong with him, it's THERE that's
wrong with him, you see, although HE's influencing THAT, of course, and so
forth. But dragons keep walking in that door, man, ohoooh. And you try to tell one of these fellows,
"There's no bugs on you." The
truth of the matter is, there is no bugs on the patient in the psychiatrist's
view of Level VII. But in the patient's
view of Level VII, there are bugs on the patient, so something has gone wrong
with VII. So, if you can make the guy merely
pay attention to what he is calling and mocking up the physical universe –
locational processing, 8-C, where is the indicated object, such things as that
- you find some remarkable things happen.
You can also do this odd thing, you think you're running problems and
you're not, you say, "Well let's, let's spot all the places where this
fellow is having any trouble in his life, and let's just have him sort of
indicate where they are. You're, you're NOT handling his Level VI difficulty
with problems. What you're handling is,
you're handling his Level VII difficulty with locations. See it's not, it's not the GPMs that have
got him going, you follow me, it's, it's...
See, he hasn't got, he hasn't got the Bide-a-Wee Biscuit Factory four or
five miles over that way where it belongs, he's IN the Bide-a-Wee Biscuit
Factory while YOU are trying to audit him.
And probably, your voice sounds peculiar to him, too, because trying to
audit across a distance of four or five miles, it's difficult.
You
know children, you say get the child into the classroom. Well, what if some of those children are
actually still outside playing? And
not, not anybody thinks they're outside playing, you see they're, the, the road
which they have the viewpoint of, they don't have to be out there playing, you
got the idea, they are where they are but they are outside playing because
that's where they are although they are sitting in front of you and you're
talking to them. You get the idea. Well, they've got, in essence, and aberration
on the VIIth. Because of great desire
to be outside, they actually put outside where they ARE, but not really put it
there, but REALLY put it there, don't you see, but they don't put where they
ARE there because they don't want to BE there, don't you see, they're not
putting up a 7th Dynamic. What the hell
you going to do with them? They, they,
you, you get read on the meter that they were outside playing, but that's, that's
what they've got out there, but they really don't dare mock it up very boldly,
you see, you're liable to see it, too.
All kinds of, you see how it gets pretty weird when you start trying to
pick your way through it in relative to, relation to. So, a child, we have said we had to get the child into the
classroom before we could teach him, so therefore, locational processes or
something like that, were very good.
Now,
it was Level VI which ruined creative processing because creative processing
really, although it touched VI slightly and would have alleviated VI slightly,
creative processing in actual fact affected Level VII. It's the exercise by which he was actually
putting up the physical universe. And
that was old creative processing. Now,
when you could get that working on somebody, it worked like a bomb. But what was wrong with it and why it got
booby-trapped - the "Step 6 effect" we used to call it - what
happened was, his bank would start getting more solid.
Well,
he actually, because the bank GPMs is full of the word "create"
strung from one end to the other, don't you see, his, his reactive mind would
get in the road of his making the physical universe, you see, and you couldn't
run the process because HE was addressing it at Level VI and it wouldn't work
unless it were addressed at Level VII.
Don't
you see? So, Level VI booby-traps Level
VII and keeps it from operating. So
therefore, creative processing... I've
had, I've had auditors come, "Why did you ever go off there, I had wonderful
results with it," you know, "Oh, this and that and the other thing
and so forth." Well, all he had to
see was one guy go green when his bank started to get totally solid to say,
"Well, if that happened one PC out of a hundred, that would be too many
times, so therefore, it's a very dangerous process, the devil with it!"
Don't you see? And at the time it was
released, I hadn't run into that hundredth guy, don't you see, although I had
enough cases to make it look perfectly all right, ran all right on me and ran
all right on anybody I audited, and then all of a sudden, started colliding
with the person it DIDN'T run all right on.
He was about one out of a hundred or something like that, you see, so we
found this stray. So right away, why,
we threw it away and didn't use it any more and so forth, but it will make a
Clear. Well, one of the reasons it'll
make a Clear is because it moves so it sort of keys out VI and puts a person
more solidly in VII, and he finds himself in a somewhat apparently Clear state
in the physical universe, yes, the APPARENCY because what you've done is really
straighten out the physical universe for him and it wasn't straightening out
his mind at all. You were straightening out his view of the physical universe
is what was being straightened out. It
was NOT, then, a mental exercise, it was a full straight forward THETAN
exercise which corrected the out-of-controlness of his making the physical
universe. See, this was so badly out of control and so aberrated and so far
adrift, so messed up, that he could no longer mock himself up a good physical
universe.
The
walls came in on him, you know? And so,
you give his some practice in mocking things up and where it worked, it was
impinging on the fact that he was moving the physical universe, getting rid of
that automaticity to the degree that it would stabilize into his basic
automaticity of making it, see, and you get rid of just his, the aberrated
nature, the aberrated, the degree that he was aberrated on the subject of being
aberrated. You, you follow that? In other words, he's already aberrated so
that he was obsessively making a physical universe and then this had
inverted. That word we use
occasionally, which means that THAT aberration had become, in its turn,
aberrated. You follow? So, he no longer, he no longer can do a
clean job of this. Then, when you gave
him a little practice in mocking things up or a LOT of practice in mocking
things up, you take the aberration off the basic aberration. The basic aberration, therefore, stayed the
way it was and he felt fine. See,
you've taken... He's still crazy, but
now he was HAPPY to be crazy. Well,
that's a good comparison. The guy was unhappy about being crazy and with a
little exercise of creativeness, why, he got happy about being crazy. But everything was better, yeah, that's
right, it was better.
I
think there was even a movie on it one time called "Harvey." Harvey, stage play, a guy saw a rabbit all
the time. He had a very cheerful rabbit
around with him all the time, and the doctor said he would get unhappy and mean
if you took his rabbit away from him and they took his, they took his rabbit
away from him and he became very unhappy. Happy-crazy and unhappy-crazy.
Anyhow,
[Gap in tape. Might be - Anyhow, they took the pc's home universe away from him
and he became unhappy-crazy]
Well,
when I got that, then was able to go back and do some 0 to IV with great
accuracy and knock out a lot of things and so forth. Well now, having come to grips here with VII and seen that it's
there, you don't even have to have a release point, see, a guy can see it,
figure out what's there. I've got to
get, I've got to finish VI before I can tackle VII and that's very hard to do,
by the way. And I sit down solo
auditing feeling, "Why wait to go on VII, why don't I get rid of all those
icepicks?" I don't know, well, we
got, all of a sudden, I get HORRIBLE somatics, don't you say, and WAAAAH and
vooo. Talk about trying to audit
yourself over you're head, you know, it's very intriguing, so I have to
suppress it. That isn't so good either,
so I run the suppression off and get on with VI. (he laughs) The net gain here has been to get another
look and realize that there were, all the time, these two approaches to the
bank, the subjective and the objective, the subjective process, the objective
process. There were, there were two
things you could do with the bank just like there are two things, significance
and mass, those are the two things you address. Now, you can address those things in two ways, which is kind of
weird, significance and mass, but you can handle them SUBjectively and you can
handle them OBjectively. So, you get
the significance and mass subjective, and the significance and the mass
OBjective.
You
say, "That is a door." Well,
that is the significance and mass objective. You ask some little kid,
"What's in the room?" and they will tell you there's a door and
there's a ceiling and there's a floor and so forth.
Well,
that's the mass and the significance, that's an objective process. Well, what
it's actually treating is the penchant the thetan has to put in the physical
universe out there, see, he's working on...
Actually, I keep saying physical universe because mine keyed in and so
forth. There's all eight Dynamics out there, not just the 6th. And, he's, well,
when he sees flowers, don't you see, why, he's into the 5th and, and he's, but
that's out there, and it's got a significance and a mass, you see, it's got a
name, a form and an apparent purpose, a relationship to the physical universe
let's it's, or two other flowers or two gardeners or something like that, so
that's the significance. And then there
is the mass of the flower and of course, to have mass, you've got to have some
space around it to separate the mass, but that's there, that is it. It isn't because something is wrong in here
that makes that it, don't you see, any wrongness is right over there where it's
it.
See,
the guy, but there is a bank in here that gives you another set of values of
the wildest and craziest sorts and directions and so forth, but that has to do
with behavior of specific significance and mass that has to do with the
behavior and attitude. A person's
behavior and attitude is what is regulated on the type of subjective process,
and his observation and, well, there's ability, and behavior and attitude as
part of ability too, but his perceivability as perception in the by and large,
and whether or not he's got solid walls, and whether or not he can walk out of
houses, you see this, those things depend on that other zone of aberration,
see, which is the OBJECTIVE zone of aberration.
And
if this guy can't walk out of houses, it isn't because something is in his mind
saying, "I can't walk out of houses."
You
follow that? It, it isn't something in
the bank that says, "I can't walk out of houses" or "trouble is
out there, HOUSE." See, it's
nowhere else than where it is, in other words, is what I'm trying to say to
you. The trouble with this fellah, he says, "I could never leave the
house," well then, don't audit him on a subjective process.
Oddly
enough, you'll run into GPMs that'll account for it. There's a whole series of
six that account for getting stuck in houses.
After you've run, after you've run these however, why, you find out that
you still aren't as happy about going out and dashing around outside of houses
as you'd like to be. And that's
because, although there's a, there's a behavior, an attitude relationship to
houses, there's also HOUSES. And
actually, he's lost the ability to mock up the outside of a house, over
there. See, he no longer makes the
outside of a house OVER THERE. He makes
the inside of the house AROUND HERE, so he can't leave a house. Do you follow? So, if you're a very clever auditor, you could add all this up in
this way. Well, do we audit this PC subjectively or objectively, is he crazy
objectively, is he crazy subjectively?
A fellow had poltergeists, you would never dream, you know, objects, and
he goes skidding around and objects fly around the room where he is. We'd never dream now, what we know now, you
see, and audit him on a subjective process.
You audit him on an objective process.
Well, what is an objective process? Well, there are TONS of them, there
were tons of them.
A
crossroads, by the way, is because it's so thoroughly into Level VI and the
reactive bank, is have. So havingness
ran Level VI and Level VII simultaneously.
It ran "out there" and "in there" too, and
therefore, it's very workable on most people and a little bit steep for some,
and some people it doesn't work on at all.
And then you have to have all the special brands of havingness to try to
get around this.
Well,
they're just not capable of, they're not capable of auditing two levels
simultaneously, they're just not clever, it's too much for them, so just don't
run it. That's easy. Run a pure
objective or a pure subjective to straighten them out when you get your can
squeeze going wrong. Can't get a can
squeeze, well, you could probably correct the can squeeze subjectively or
objectively, compared to whether the PC was aberrated on the subject of the
physical universe because of attitude and behavior or aberrated on the subject
of the, of the universe around him because he was, had an aberrated physical
universe around him. You get the idea? Is his attitude toward the universe wrong,
or has he got a wrong universe? Now, I
think I've said it a little more comprehensive.
You
understand, in talking to you about these things, I haven't actually had a
chance to express them at all, I haven't written them up, these are your sole
notes on all of this. Oh well, that's
not true, there's about eight pages of reports on the subject, but it, it
doesn't cover what I'm telling you, it just recovers the exact, precise, crisp
findings. In other words, you, it gives
you an insight, if you KNOW this then this gives you this kind of an
insight. PC's can squeeze is down. Well, it gives you the choice, then, of
whether you get his can squeeze up by running off the locks of the session,
which has been an introverted type session, see, and that would get his can
squeeze up providing his can squeeze was down because of a subjective reason, a
Level VI reason, a bank reason, a GPM reason. See? Suppress Prepchecking is totally subjective. Of course, you could
prepcheck an exterior object, but it would have to be the object that is with
you right this minute. You'd have to
give the guy, "Be typewriter," or A typewriter, and say, "Now,
suppress that typewriter." You
wouldn't be able to say, "Recall a time you have suppressed that
typewriter," don't you see, you'd have to say, "Suppress the
typewriter. Now unsuppress it. Suppress it. Unsuppress it." All of a
sudden, the typewriter would do something.
"Did you move the roller of the typewriter again?" You couldn't say get the IDEA of supressing
the typewriter, don't you see, you just have to exercise, this is very direct,
you have to exercise the PC in relationship to the object and you've got a,
you've got an objective process. I
don't care how you do it.
You
do this with e-meters all the time. Did
you ever have something funny happen while you were doing reach and withdraw
from an e-meter? Well of course, you're
not very aberrated on the subject of an e-meter. But you get something around that would be really aberrative,
don't you see? I know, get a fire, burn
a fire, get a fire burning, little wood fire or something like that, and sit a
PC down in front of it and exercise him on the subject of this fire. You say, "Reach the fire, withdraw from
the..." "WHAT?"
"Mm-mm, just gonna run this little process, reach the fire, withdraw
from the.." "(mumble) The hell with you!" "No now, come on now, well, how could
we phrase this so that it's runnable?"
"Well, you've given me a lose now and I wouldn't be able to run it
at all." "Alright. Well, we'll start in on this thing on a
gradiment, gradient. Alright." Then, you get smart, don't you see, if you
really know he's putting the physical universe there for himself and that that
is another bank, now you can get very smart. And you say, "Alright. Heat up the fire. Good. Cool off the fire. Good.
Heat up the fire.
Good." He'll say, "How
am I supposed to do THAT?"
"Well, just DO it." "Well, I can get the idea
of.." "No no no no no, just,
just you know, go nrrr-rrr-rrrrr-rr, heat, and nrrr-rrr-rrrrr-rr, cold, and
nrrr-rrr-rrrrr- rr, that's the way you're supposed to do that." "Alright. If you say so."
Now
this is, this hasn't been done, don't you see, I've just given you, straight
off the cuff, these are theoretical abstractions as that might occur. You see?
And
so, he does this for a while and he so he goes ooooo-ssn-mmmmm-mmmmmm and you
know his fire is starting to flicker.
And all of a sudden, HE notices the fire, too. And you say, alright,
well let's, it, 'cause it did get a bit flat, why... This, by the way, would probably register on the e-meter too,
because, you know, it's the physical universe but it would probably be the
e-meter registering back at the PC, don't you see, not the e-meter registering
to the bank, or there'd be something crazy going on. I don't know exactly WHAT would go on. I know the e-meter will register on the physical universe. The PC's reaction to the physical universe
causes a registry on the e-meter as well as the bank reaction, apparently.
Now,
you're next, you're next action, you see, of, is to tell this fellow,
"Alright. Now, reach toward the
fire." "Well, it's gotten brighter." After a little while, you say what's your, this is theoretical, "What
are you telling me to do that for? What
do you mean?
Why
are you saying toward? Why don't aren't you saying reach the fire, withdraw
from the fire, what's the matter? You changing the process on me? You squirrel or something?" And you
say, "Alright. Reach the fire.
Withdraw from the fire." It's
totally theoretical. You don't say put
your had into the fire and take your hand away from the fire. But, you very possibly, if this was
exercised, it would be very possible if the fellow was up at, up at, he'd gone
through VI and was in VII, this would be a pipe, but I'm talking about a fellow
that's still got the human characteristics.
And he'd be reaching into the fire and withdrawing from the fire and
reaching into the fire and withdrawing.
If you got curious, say, "How can you do that?" "Well," he'd say, "I never
reach into a hot fire, man, I reach into a cold one." ((laughter)) Now, just exactly what would happen if you put a thermometer in
that fire, I wouldn't be prepared to tell you.
I don't know if it'd only be cold for him, don't you see, or if it'd be
cold for everybody. That's the point. These are little points of interesting
speculation which, in due course, one will get adequate subjective reality on
this. Subjective reality is right over the hill, it's very close, too.
But
I myself have seen lamps move and have seen things happen in various types of
process that I never really competently understood before. I now know what it's all about. I mean, I was doing at the time these things
happened, an objective process. And of
course, spatial relationships of things change when you do it. I've often, I every now and then would be
auditing a PC and he'd find the distance to the wall has shifted. This is almost standard of are they getting
good reaction out of an objective process.
By getting a good reaction out of it, I mean, are they getting any
improvement out of it, they going anyplace with this effective process? Well very often, they will make some remark
like this but it's something mild and you wouldn't, you really wouldn't be too
alert because it sounds very mild when they say it. "Well, the distance to the wall, the distance to the wall's
good and the room has gotten larger," and so forth. And you've heard PCs say that and you've
said to yourself, "Well alright, it just seems to him he's got an idea of
this whole thing." And it never
occurred to you the room had gotten larger, you know, the room was not, as far
as he was concerned, two feet by three feet.
The room is now eight feet by ten feet.
Now, you could aberrate it in the other way around and get the room to
get too large, and something might happen there.
But
this, when you're going up through the levels, they are not, the processes in
them, this was another datum I needed in order to make a final adjustment of
any processes in there, although I consider them pretty final now at lower
levels, but probably each one should have a little bit and a piece of an
objective and a subjective. You
see? We used to do this all the time,
where everything was either, we had an objective and we had a subjective
process for various things. We used to
look out and look in. Now, this find three spots in your body, three spots in
the room, is oddly enough an objective process, one hundred percent, because of
course, the mind, the reactive bank, is not in the body. Just because you're looking into the body is
no reason why you're inspecting the reactive bank. The reactive bank is a thing, it's got sort of mushy looking
electronic masses and it's got pictures and locks and other things associated
with this, it is a THING. Well, the physical
universe and the remaining dynamics, of course, are themselves a THING. And that's what we mean when we say our
universe and the other fellow's universe and everybody's universe, there were
three universes, if you can remember rightly.
Well, that apparently is very true, there are apparently three
universes, but we were speaking of the reactive bank as meaning one of those
universes where, as a matter of fact, that's a little bit of a curve in the
line. It turns out that there was HIS
universe, you know, HIS brick walls, and we're not sure right now whether or
not they're his brick walls and everybody's brick walls or ONLY his brick
walls, or exactly what's the status of these brick walls, because we're right
up a bunch, right up against the ability to disintegrate matter, all these
various phenomena that... A yogi has
been known as a good yogi if he could, you know, something or other, if he
could levitate, you know, you've heard all these tricks and nonsense pieces and
that sort of thing. Kid game stuff.
This, this is a, this is, this is the level you're looking at. You see?
Now,
exactly the extent and dimension and capability and if you do it, if it does it
for everybody, and if we, if we blow up the rock of Gibraltar, is it also blown
up for Spain or is it only blown up for England? A lot of interesting questions get asked there. And we can't, of course, at this instant
give a FINAL absolute exclamatory point answer, what is the condition of this
stuff, and so forth. All the remaining
Dynamics ask a question like what is a plant?
Is a plant part of another thetan?
Is it somebody who is keeping his eye on something or other which keeps
it growing? You know, these are, these
are all these very little interesting bric-a-brac type of questions that knock
around in anybody's head. You're
looking over this situation and, well, "I. What do I mean by I?" you see, and various questions. Well,
they're your, your 7th Dynamic aspect and the bank as we see it is
really not part of that. They're quite
distinct.
There's
an error in, a very small error, I like to call these things to your attention,
there's an error in the early materials on Level VI that says you make, this
has been consistently stated and it's now found to be incorrect, the bank is responsible
for the physical universe. That is
felonious statement. The bank is
responsible for the physical universe.
No, the thetan is responsible for the physical universe. The thetan is responsible for the physical
universe and not via the reactive bank.
Because he has walked up a GPM that has time in it is not then the
reason why he had time.
Do
you follow that? Well, it doesn't occur
at Level VI, I had two levels together there.
That occurs at Level VII and is a direct action, and the aberration
itself IS time and not a GPM ABOUT time.
You follow that? That's a very
subtle difference, nevertheless the other is a little bit too broad a
generality and that, that have to be corrected to that degree. But the aberration is time, the aberration
is not having a GPM that gives you time.
See? See?
And then because you've got a GPM that gives you mud that makes mud
aberrative when you fall into it, see, the aberration is mud.
Now,
there is a state of mind and a set of agreements at Level VII which is NOT the
GPM bank, and that state of mind keeps one fixed into the belief and keeps one,
that there is a physical universe, and keeps one fixed also into the belief
that everybody has one bank and one universe in common. That is the fixed belief. It looks like a first cousin to a GPM, but
it's not GPM but it looks like a first cousin to it. And that is what is at Level VII.
It's,
it's the, the kinks in the thetan that bring about his belief in the oneness of
everything and that kind of thing.
So
anyhow, it's all very fascinating and you should distinguish between an
objective, then, and a subjective process.
And at any lower level, you could actually get clever enough to choose
which one to run on the PC on the basis of what you've observed in the PC. This
PC's car is a wreck. Well, we used to
say if you straightened out various things, his car would be less of a
wreck. Well, there's a more direct way
you could do that. His approach to the world called car, see, is a 7th Dynamic
thing and therefore if you did an objective process, it would straighten out
faster, you don't have to worry about the think, you don't even have to worry
about his, you see, the physical universe is not an experiential line and Level
VII doesn't include the experiential line.
You acknowledge the scape [stray?] engrams and experience and, and that
sort of thing, they're not there, the experience You see, one of the things
you're stepping out of when you go from Level VI to Level VII, is you step
totally out of the aberration because of past experience. That's gone, there isn't any. The aberration
doesn't stay there because you've had the past experience. The past might be there but the aberration
won't be there. You understand? So the basis of the whole idea, I know this
is strange to you, you'd have, there'd no longer be a basic-basic to anything,
don't you see, or anything like that because there wouldn't be a basic
experience you have to trace forward like the first time you made any MEST.
That
would not be the thing, actually the fact that you had made MEST at some prior
moment and so forth, would have no bearing your having MEST now. Do you follow?
Well,
the whole build up and the compounded nature of aberration vanishes at Level
VI. You're no longer dealing with that
at Level VII. Experience now will mean
nothing. So you were in a train wreck yesterday? So what. It doesn't
influence your condition today because you were in a train wreck
yesterday. Do you follow that? You're not aberrated because your mother was
mean to you anymore, don't you see, the whole aspect of that. As a matter of fact, at that point it
appears to be that I would predict that it would be rather hard to grasp how
you could figure it out so that you could now be aberrated because THEN had had
something happen to you. See? You can get that as the primary aberration
that a person is facing all the time because of Level VI. I am the way I am because we, they dropped
an atom bomb on my foot one day.
See? Of course, that sounds
perfectly logical to a human, but it would sound very illogical at Level
VI. You're in bad shape because
something happenED? Why? Brother, how you connect them things up like
that?
You
crazy or something? You say you feel
tired because you didn't have any sleep last night. Figure this out. You feel
tired because you didn't have any sleep last night. Last night, oh, I get
it. When do you feel tired? Oh, you
feel tired now. Oh, I don't understand
that, I can understand how you could feel tired last night. You know, it's last night and you're feeling
tired. OK. That's a good game.
You're, you're, as we talk, you're last night feeling tired. Yeah, that makes sense. OK.
I got that so it's sense to me.
I don't know why you're doing it. Flexercising or something?
Of
course, it's up to you. You say that
that isn't what you're doing, you feel tired NOW because you were up LATE LAST
NIGHT. Hmmmm. How the hell are you doing that? Let's see. Well, you must be living in broadened time,
is that what it is? Quite a game here,
broadened time. Boy, you're going to
get confused, if you do that. I
wouldn't do that, if I were you.
And
actually, from a rather sane viewpoint, that is more or less how it would look
from Level VII when you try to make sense of what is humanoid obviousness, it
doesn't make sense anymore. And you
might, maybe you may run across some materials from lord knows how long ago,
you might have been there at the time, but during the period when I used to tell
you, you couldn't be right and be human? Impossible to be right and be
human. And that's absolutely true. It becomes incredible from a viewpoint of
that upper level.
You
couldn't be. If you were right to that
degree, you would be at the upper level and you wouldn't be human. But to the amount of error that human
obviousness looks like from these points of view, it's, it's just a
brain-cracker, absolute brain-cracker.
I can, I can bend my own wits around and see how it would look, you see,
it'd look silly.
I
really had a ball when I was going down the line adding this up, bangity
bangity bangity bangity bang, and I was looking right straight at it, you know,
and I was trying to keep my hair from standing on end and a few things like
that, and just doing a competent job of observer, don't you see, which you have
to. You can't go off and get a lot of
case run while you're doing this. What
ruins a lot of people in research is they get case advances. They don't maintain
an objective viewpoint. They maintain
an aberrated or subjective viewpoint which they don't need. And it was, it was
quite interesting, I could see which way that was going and boy, you know, I
had to drag myself away from that session with the crook on the neck or I would
have gone right back and started running this stuff out and I'd probably cut my
head off and had the ship sunk in the middle of the high seas, and lord knows
what all would have happened. But I had
to lay it aside quietly and come home like a good boy. The "Now, I'll have at it. No no, I'm going to be a very good boy, I'm
going to go ahead and finish the plot of, of the GPM because I've been taught
by experience it isn't very likely to be turned out very accurately in a long
period of time, so I better go ahead and finish that total plot up and then run
them all like a good boy and, and.."
It's,
a lot of it's done right now, I've got a stack of cards about that high. And then go on back on up to Level VII in an
orderly progress. In other words, I
will do exactly what I am advising everybody to do in general.
((laughter)) So, it's a matter of
record here that Ron has for once taken his own advice. In other words, do as I do as well as I say.
So
anyhow, that's about the extent of it.
It shows that there's a, we're approaching, we're approaching, just to
be unemotional about it and so forth, the point of all of the conundrums and
all of this sort of thing, and they become very objectively shaken out, you
don't have to be informed of them particularly, they just shake out. You, you get uncrazy on the subject of them
and that's a very good thing. But it
doesn't mean that you're not interested in participating and so forth, you can
get more excited and, you know, more, more pleasure out of existence because it
isn't kicking you in the head. And yet,
I don't know, I've probably got 9/10ths of the bank in place and ALL of the
physical universe sitting there staring at me and when I walk out of that door,
I'm going to have to take hold of the knob.
So
thank you very much.
[end
of lecture]